DirectAdmin auto-update to 1.36.0

lowbwtom

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My intention in posting this is not to denegrate DA or to complain. I wish to encourage improvement of an otherwise exceptional product.

In a related thread "DirectAdmin auto-update to 1.36.0 crashed" I learned that DA support new of the problem with the 1.36.0 update within hours of its release. (I would have posted to that thread, but apparently it has been closed without any way of reopening it, that I know of.)

Since the problem caused DA to crash, issuing an new update would not have solved the problem since the auto-update would not run. So how are such problems announced? DA surely has records of which users have installed that update. Why did they not email a solution to those users? No announcement regarding the failure and its solution reached me. I saw no such announcement on the forum. It seems to me that a failure such as this would warrant prominent display on the first page.

In the final post by DA support to the previous thread, before it was closed to further posts, I was given a link to a thread (http://help.directadmin.com/item.php?id=29) titled "Updating DirectAdmin Manually". However, the first step is to know that you need to update manually. This was not known. Also, the post refers to "Client ID and License ID" numbers but does not indicate how or where to find these items. I expect this would be especially difficult when DA is not running, and require special knowledge of where these things are stored and how to access them outside of normal DA operations.

DA is not an expensive alternative, although it does cost me an extra $120 per year to use it, by choice, since Plesk could not easily do what I needed. I understand the "do it yourself" ethos of linux, apache and related systems, but I have to compare this to buying a new car, but expecting to stop every mile or two and tinker with the engine to keep it running. Even this is acceptable if I am alerted to what has failed and how to fix it.

Perhaps I have the wrong impression, and if so I apologize, but I see two things: 1) DA does not want to publicly announce when it has a problem, and 2) when you mention such things in an open forum, DA support closes the thread thus stopping any discussion of it.
 
Your sever sends you an email when DirectAdmin is not running.
 
Peter Laws: "Via your client area on this site is one way.... "
what client area? what's that?

floyd: "Your sever sends you an email when DirectAdmin is not running."
that does nothing to solve the problem. the topic is support for crashing updates.
 
floyd: "Your sever sends you an email when DirectAdmin is not running."
that does nothing to solve the problem. the topic is support for crashing updates.

Excuse me but you said:
No announcement regarding the failure and its solution reached me.

I never said it solved the problem. Part of your post was regarding being notified that there was a problem. I merely addressed that particular problem. It was not like you simply tried to go to the control panel and found out that way. The server sent you an email. So you were notified that there was a problem.
 
Peter Laws: "Via your client area on this site is one way.... "
what client area? what's that?

floyd: "Your sever sends you an email when DirectAdmin is not running."
that does nothing to solve the problem. the topic is support for crashing updates.

Apparently you don't have access to the client area. The client area is here: https://directadmin.com/clients . When you don't have access to it, you should contact your reseller for the client id and license id.
 
no, it's more a need for defining your terms. "client area" is not a universal expression, known to all. "client area" is to my knowledge, that portion of a window containing client information, and refers to screen layout for programming.

lack of interest in this topic tells me no one cares about crashing updates. so, it is commonly accepted that DA will be unreliable and crash from time to time?
 
I have over 100 DirectAdmin servers and DirectAdmin never crashes on them. So no its not commonly accepted nor does it happen commonly.

Lack of interest should tell you that its not happening to most everyone else, only you and maybe a few other people.
 
@lowbwtom:

It has been written many times on this forum that this is not the proper place for official DirectAdmin support. DirectAdmin support may be found here if you buy your license directly from DirectAdmin.

If you get your license from your hosting provider then you get your support from them as well, and in that case you wouldn't have an account in the DirectAdmin client area.

It's impossible to tell why the previous thread was closed because you didn't publish a link to that thread.

Jeff
 
no, it's more a need for defining your terms. "client area" is not a universal expression, known to all.

Nor was it being used generically. It was being used as it relates to your DirectAdmin account. Context is everything.
 
i suppose the key is that i got DA via my hosting company, and was not aware of the existence of a DA account. basically, if i don't get a notification via the update facility, then i don't know anything about it. i will try to find this DA account of which you spoke.
 
found client account. thought that was just for the forum. it says i don't have a license, so there must be another account somewhere that was created by my hosting provider. i probably don't have access to that.
 
found client account. thought that was just for the forum. it says i don't have a license, so there must be another account somewhere that was created by my hosting provider. i probably don't have access to that.

So even if DA staff had sent out a notice about a problem you still would not have gotten it, your hosting company would have.

However as the administrator you do get a notice through the message system that DirectAdmin was down (and any other problems). That is unless you do not have the message system set to send email to your current email address.

http://admin.site-helper.com/messagesystem.html
 
no, it's more a need for defining your terms. "client area" is not a universal expression, known to all.
I understood what it meant. And I'm an idiot. I've never encountered the problem you speak of. I have 4 DA machines and absolutely love it. Stable as a rock, and easy to use. I'd have two more of them if there was an easy way to migrate from Plesk.
 
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