How to Backup all data though admin
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vandal
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you login to direct admin and under Admin Tools, there is a link called "System backup" you click that, choose your path and the directories/files to backup or the remote ftp to send it to and thats it. click run system backup now.
fusionictnl
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You will have to manualy add some extra dirs of /usr/local/directadmin. These are standardly not added.
I would recommend for the time being an other backup solution if you want to have it for restoring after a crash.
DA doesn't restore backups, so you'll have to do it manualy. I've tested it and it's a hell of a job. You will have to manualy add all accounts again and then restore per/dir the files. Why ? The backup has standard no DA configs with it so on restore there are no users. If you have restored them before you added the users, DA will give errors that users exists etc.
Not good if you want a solid backup.
I would recommend for the time being an other backup solution if you want to have it for restoring after a crash.
DA doesn't restore backups, so you'll have to do it manualy. I've tested it and it's a hell of a job. You will have to manualy add all accounts again and then restore per/dir the files. Why ? The backup has standard no DA configs with it so on restore there are no users. If you have restored them before you added the users, DA will give errors that users exists etc.
Not good if you want a solid backup.
vandal
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they desperatly need to put this as a main priority.
nobaloney
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DA has a good history of giving us the tools we need and letting us use our intelligence and experience to figure out how to use them.
Perhaps I'm wrong, but I don't think I've ever seen DA sold as a system control panel, but rather as a hosting control panel.
That all said, there's a thread on this forum where I've been relating my experience in creating a restore system for the DA (sysbk) backup.
I should have a How-To available by the end of the week; perhaps sooner. (We're currently experimenting with making and restoring backups to see what we leave out, and we're keeping good records.) The problem is that every time I leave something out and it doesn't work I start over from a clean system. That takes time.
The How-To will be posted here, will be Linux specific, and will be "free" as in speech and as in beer.
We also offer backup services and restore services for DA and other hosting solutions, and will probably offer automated scripting as a commercial product in the future, for those who don't want to follow the How-To.
Jeff
Perhaps I'm wrong, but I don't think I've ever seen DA sold as a system control panel, but rather as a hosting control panel.
That all said, there's a thread on this forum where I've been relating my experience in creating a restore system for the DA (sysbk) backup.
I should have a How-To available by the end of the week; perhaps sooner. (We're currently experimenting with making and restoring backups to see what we leave out, and we're keeping good records.) The problem is that every time I leave something out and it doesn't work I start over from a clean system. That takes time.
The How-To will be posted here, will be Linux specific, and will be "free" as in speech and as in beer.
We also offer backup services and restore services for DA and other hosting solutions, and will probably offer automated scripting as a commercial product in the future, for those who don't want to follow the How-To.
Jeff
fusionictnl
Verified User
We'll DA has given an option to backup you're files. But they aren't giving an option to Restore them. In fact they are confusing people by saying a full system backup. As I explained this is NOT what it is.
It's just tarring some files, wich on restore time on a new machine, new setup or other distro. Will not work and far from that help you restore the system.
DA is a competing control panel with others. So if they want to have a fair chance, they have to add a good working backup/restore function for the CP itself. As I don't know what belongs to DA and what is setup for DA.
It's just tarring some files, wich on restore time on a new machine, new setup or other distro. Will not work and far from that help you restore the system.
DA is a competing control panel with others. So if they want to have a fair chance, they have to add a good working backup/restore function for the CP itself. As I don't know what belongs to DA and what is setup for DA.
nobaloney
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The DA system is far superior to that Plesk offers; the Plesk system also requires a complete rebuild of Plesk before you run it...
And it creates one file, often so large that it has to be broken up into pieces by the split command just to manipulate it.
The only way to restore a file out of the Plesk backup is to restore it to another fully functional, fully operational, and fully licensed Plesk server, and then move over the one file you need.
I agree that DA's backup system still needs work, and I've taken on the task of working on it.
Jeff
And it creates one file, often so large that it has to be broken up into pieces by the split command just to manipulate it.
The only way to restore a file out of the Plesk backup is to restore it to another fully functional, fully operational, and fully licensed Plesk server, and then move over the one file you need.
I agree that DA's backup system still needs work, and I've taken on the task of working on it.
Jeff
fusionictnl
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I'm not "really" blaming anything to DA. They've done a terrific job. But some things aren't completly finished and I know people are waiting for more and more features/updates. But they'll have to try to make things "Complete".
So if you build a Backup system then create a Restore system.
So if you build a Backup system then create a Restore system.
nobaloney
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Is that an order or a requestfusionictnl said:
?I'm fixing the backup system now, and I'm not yet sure I've got it completely.
I'll also publish a simplified restore How-To.
If I decide to write a restore system (once I've got the How-To I don't really need a restore system for myself) I might decide to write one as a commercial product.
No complaints accepted. If I write it I get to decide how to market it. And since I've already put about 30 hours into it and it's far from done, I'm inclined to offer it at a price.
Jeff
fusionictnl
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It isn't a request or order, I just mean that if you build something to backup. Than you can imagine that almost everyone, want some way to restore it. It would be useless with people with avarage skills at all. And even more when not everything is backup'ed to get things working after a crash.
We'll you might be sure that DA hasn't already started building it. AS it is way less work for them as for you. They know what config files need to be backup'ed and what the panel can automaticaly add if it has some domain/user files.
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nobaloney
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I'm sure they know more than I do.fusionictnl said:
And after extensive testing, I'm just as sure that they've left some critical files out of the default settings.
We all make mistakes. I've rebuilt and retried at least three times already, and I'm still not sure I've got it right.
But I'm getting closer.
I repeat, the restore How-To will be free contributed, and will be easy to follow.
Jeff
nobaloney
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.kencash said:
As soon as I have an answer on what needs to be backed up to recreate a working system, I'll publish it on these forums.
Are you getting anything at all? Or nothing.
If nothing, then be sure that your backup path is /home/backup and that your backup partition is /home .
Jeff
nobaloney
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You can post attachments here if you wish. Whether or not I'll have time to do anything about it I just can't say.
Jeff
Jeff
I agree this function needs to be completed, to me it seems half a feature, its only common sense that if you havea backup feature you have a way to restore as well.
Also I tried adding /etc and /usr/local/etc dirs to the backup settings and later find out it didnt blanket backup those dirs it just selected a few files which I found dissapointing because I like how it can cron remote backups.
Also I tried adding /etc and /usr/local/etc dirs to the backup settings and later find out it didnt blanket backup those dirs it just selected a few files which I found dissapointing because I like how it can cron remote backups.
nobaloney
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Response to kencash:
Your image doesn't show everything we'd need to know to see if you're doing a complete backup.
If you look at the Directories and Files sections towards the bottom you'll notice that there are scrollbars on both columns, which means we can't see all of them.
I've still not finished verifying my backup/restore procedure; as soon as I do I'll post it in these forums.
This page, as is, should create a backup on the local server; you might want to make sure you have a /home/backup directory.
If you want your backup transferred off the server you'll want to click on "Use remote transfer", and create a backup account on some other system with an ftp daemon. Then you'll need to change the information for Remote Host, Remote User, Remote Password, and Rmote Path.
Then you should be able to make an immediate system backup by clicking on "Run System Backup Now" or by setting up the Cron Schedule immediately under the button and the "View Last Backup Log" link.
Be sure to check your backup log an hour or two after the backup to see if there were any errors.
Note that even if you get a backup without errors, you may not be able to do a complete restore form it; I'm still working on determing what's been missed.
Jeff
Your image doesn't show everything we'd need to know to see if you're doing a complete backup.
If you look at the Directories and Files sections towards the bottom you'll notice that there are scrollbars on both columns, which means we can't see all of them.
I've still not finished verifying my backup/restore procedure; as soon as I do I'll post it in these forums.
This page, as is, should create a backup on the local server; you might want to make sure you have a /home/backup directory.
If you want your backup transferred off the server you'll want to click on "Use remote transfer", and create a backup account on some other system with an ftp daemon. Then you'll need to change the information for Remote Host, Remote User, Remote Password, and Rmote Path.
Then you should be able to make an immediate system backup by clicking on "Run System Backup Now" or by setting up the Cron Schedule immediately under the button and the "View Last Backup Log" link.
Be sure to check your backup log an hour or two after the backup to see if there were any errors.
Note that even if you get a backup without errors, you may not be able to do a complete restore form it; I'm still working on determing what's been missed.
Jeff
nobaloney
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Running Enterprise Linux I've not had a problem with adding directory paths. Every directory path I've added has been completely backed up.Chrysalis said:
Jeff