Mail sent from UebiMiau is recognized as spam!

[Jeroen]

Hi,

I'm having problems with UebiMiau webmail.
Whenever I send an email from UebiMiau, the other end marks it as spam!.
In hotmail the're automaticly places in spam folder etc.

Anyone got solution for this ?

 

[nobaloney]

Have you checked to see if your system's main IP# is listed in any blocklist?

Jeff

 

[duke28]

i have the same problem.. and dns reverse is ok
and i dont see my ip on spamcop.net

so what its can be ??

all email we sent to hotmail is going to be considered as a spam

 

[nobaloney]

i have the same problem.. and dns reverse is ok
and i dont see my ip on spamcop.net

so what its can be ??

You'll have to figure out why they're considering your email as spam.

Do you have good reverse DNS?

Is your server hostname registered in DNS?

Jeff

 

[duke28]

yes

 

[Jeroen]

The problem still exists on my server.

Tested the mails on other recipts, their spamfilters don't indicate anything.

Even simple mail sent fron php mail() command gets in the hotmail spam box.

Can't find out what's wrong.

Not on blacklists, dns configs are correct

Hotmail's system is kind enouhg to NOT mention WHY it is spam

 

[nobaloney]

Is your SPF DNS record properly configured? Hotmail is picky about SPF.

Have you tried contacting [email protected] and asking them?

Perhaps your IP# was previously used by a known spammer and they've blocked it.

Jeff

 

[Jeroen]

Is your SPF DNS record properly configured?

How to find out if the SPF records are correct?

I've contacted hotmail 2 times, never got reply.

 

[duke28]

its strange.. because we run 6 servers, and all servers its do the same problem...

 

[duke28]

i think the real solution is that :

http://www.bondedsender.com/register/

but its not free

 

[Jeroen]

Wow..
Hotmail sent me reply, and it's not helpfull at all.
The only thing they say is.. put the emailaddress in the white-list.

this is irritating me

 

[duke28]

http://www.bondedsender.com

reference of :
http://postmaster.msn.com/cgi-bin/dasp/postmaster.asp?ContextNav=FightJunkEmail#addCap

stupid.... but i think its the only solution..

 

[Jeroen]

But, why aren't there more people with this problem?

And there must be an other solution for this problem!

 

[duke28]

i dunno.. i have search many solution..
its not working much..

 

[Jeroen]

I found out that a simple

<?php
mail('<hotmail-address>', 'subject', 'message');
?>

Works well, and goes in the inbox.

But when adding additional headers 'From' and 'Reply-To' it's Junk E-Mail

 

[nobaloney]

Hotmail isn't going to tell us how they determine if they think something is spam because that helps spammers get email through.

But Jeroen has pointed out something...

If they return address or the reply-to headers don't match the server, that's two things they reject on.

So use this information.

Sure hotmail would love you to become a Bonded Sender. That's stupid and there are lots of reasons to not buy into it.

If you do buy into it then eventually every large ISP domain out there is going to have it's own program you're going to have to pay for.

Don't let them blackmail you.

We ask our clients to not use our mailserver for outgoing email; we tell them that there are lots of reasons why we may get blocked that are totally beyond our control, and we ask them to use their ISPs servers. Then at least it's their ISPs problem.

For mail that comes from forms created on our servers, we explain to our users that it's safest to have them delivered to mailboxes on our servers.

And we peer with AOL; that doesn't cost anything.

Jeff