Support for a higher version of Mariadb?

Remco00 said:
No, that is not true. DA support for MariaDB 11.4 is license dependent. For a large group of loyal DA customers with a legacy license, support for MariaDB 11 has been made impossible by DA.
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They don't like the fact that they made a mistake years ago by selling too many lifetime license so instead of trying to get new clients they are screwing over their old ones. But that is ok. What goes around comes around.
 
That's too bad. Seems like even updating to 10.11 is not allowed unless you upgrade. That's pretty shady since the legacy DA versions are essentially EOL when the databases end support.
 
That's right, and by making the main product EOL for a large group of customers, the organization will quickly follow the same path. So in the end there are only losers left.
 
I just updated to Mariadb 11.4 on several systems and then went to do my DA systems only to find that they cannot be upgraded because the license has been crippled. So no ability to have a common environment when using DA.

What DA did to OVH customers was shady, and this is shady as well.
 
Shoplifter said:
I just updated to Mariadb 11.4 on several systems
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Which panels do they use?

Shoplifter said:
What DA did to OVH customers was shady, and this is shady as well.
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DA did nothing to OVH customers. DA did this to every customer. As from their comments can be concluded they most likely had to do this.
Although it's not real fair against the title "lifetime upgrades and support", there is not a single similar company doing this and being able to maintain such structure over the years.
I was mad in the beginning to, but can understand that you can't keep a business alife like this.
Next to that, unless one needs really special things, no need yet to upgrade to MariaDB 11.4 and the licenses can still be used. At least with Alma 9 or Debian 12 (not newer).

Big datacenters like OVH and others profited long enough by buying these licenses for 89 dollar or less and having their customers pay 5 or more/month for them so they earned them back multiple times over the years.
But didn't want to struck a good deal for modern licenses which would also be good for DA, so OVH and others don't care if their customers have to now pay the licenses themselves. So it's OVH (and others) doing it to their customers.

It's not good and I still don't like it, but I do understand that no business with a lot of development can keep this going for always and DA already tot for 20 years until the legacy declaration, in fact a great achievement compared to others. Just bad news for us.

Compare it with CSF. They helped us for free for many years and then stop all support with 1 month notice.
DA could just as well have declared all those licenses EOL and we would be off worse.
 
Richard G said:
Which panels do they use?
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Webmin. Which is where I guess we are going for now. I would have considered the Lite licenses save for my experience last year.


The thing about the OVH situation last year when all of the licenses were stopped abruptly and access to the panel restricted was that there was no heads up at all as to the nature of the problem. We spent about 40 hours working on it as a technical issue until it magically started working and we were told it was a licensing issue all along. Really, really bad business.
 
Shoplifter said:
The thing about the OVH situation last year when all of the licenses were stopped abruptly and access to the panel restricted was that there was no heads up at all as to the nature of the problem
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Yes correct, we read about that. That was an OVH issue if I remember correctly. It took OVH a very long time before contacting DA in spite of lots of their customers complaining about the issue.
 
For costless I'm just renting Dedicate server and Directadmin with interserver,
DA just cost $21, and Dedicate just cost $100- $200 for medium performance.

When I need more resource, I'm planning to build my own server and just renting the colocation with other datacenter, this could make more costless.
 
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