The state of DirectAdmin.

[fastpuppy]

It's admittedly not my place to tell you how to run your business but the general consensus among the hosting companies I have spoken to is that you have already gone out of business.

I've been looking for solid reseller hosting for a while now since my current provider, Idologic, decided to try and force me off directadmin by cutting the resources on the DA server (driving performance into the ground) then blame you guys for not keeping up to date. They are pushing cPanel hard on their DA clients.

If you are still in business... some thoughts...

1. Have some social media presence even if it's just a twitter account. Anything to let people know you are still alive.
2. Have a directory of directadmin hosting companies or encourage them to post hosting offers in this forum.

 

[Richard G]

but the general consensus among the hosting companies I have spoken to is that you have already gone out of business.

LoL... if that is the case, maybe those are companies with little knowledge. Because everyone running a bit of a decent hosting company knows DA is still alive and kicking and even if they don't know, they should at the very least have a look for themselves. How difficult can it be to try directadmin.com or to use Google?
So company's thinking DA is out of business... well personally I think they are plain stupid, sorry.

If company's try to push their customers into another hosting panel, that's a business decision and has nothing to do with not being alive.
DA is much easier to upgrade and uses less resources then Cpanel does. I can't even get newer version of cpanel for more then 6 months for a customer because he's still running Centos 5. DA has support until March 2018 for Centos 5. DA is cheaper then Cpanel if you buy lifetime, which is not possible for Cpanel anymore.
Cpanel has maybe some more options. But I rather do a ./buil update to update my php then a complete run of easyapache to only update php from 5.5.29 to 5.5.30 or something like that, so the minor upgrades.

1.) Would be a good idea, maybe Facebook is also a good idea. There is some kind of a page, but not supported or owned yet. Cpanel has one.
2.) Companies have to allow to have their name mentioned. It's can be also some work to keep this up to date.

or encourage them to post hosting offers in this forum

There is an advertising section for this at the bottom end of the forums. But these are mainly support forums. Company's can also use webhostingtalk forums for hosting offers.

 

[fastpuppy]

So company's thinking DA is out of business... well personally I think they are plain stupid, sorry.

You aren't exactly going to get an argument out of me, but I have encountered 7 or 8 hosting companies in the last few days that have DirectAdmin on their websites but do not offer the service.

FYI: One of the hosting companies I was using www.idologic.com have been pushing me so hard to move to cPanel that they have actually jammed all remaining DA clients onto an increasingly overtaxed server then had the gall to blame DirectAdmin for the problems.

 

[Richard G]

Yes oke, you mentioned before they were pushing you, but as I said, pushing users to use other systems is a business decision. Not a proove that something would not be alive anymore.
Company's are switching both sides.

Putting users on an overtaxed server or don't do any maintenance and blaiming DA for it is a question of not being truthfull to your customers and another way or forcing them up your will.
A decent company would tell the truth as "dear customers, due to (any reason) we will switch to (Cpanel/DA/Plesk) hosting panel starting (date)" etc. and then let your customers choose if they will stay with the company or not.
Being truthfull and giving services to customers will give more chance that they will stay or come back, then forcing customers up your will the way you describe.
I do know there are company's out there who will do it the way you describe. I would get out there instantly.


It is a bit odd though if companies have DA on theri websites but do not offer the service. In that case I really wonder why they don't keep their website up 2 date. Are they too big and so they don't care? Or is it lazyness (which is not good either way).

Hard to say.

But those are business decisions. I also know of various company's using Plesk and never would switch to anything else. Matter of choice.

 

[Arieh]

It's a bit of an odd story, I think just as Richard says, a company is just selling a story about DA to justify their reasons to move to another control panel.

As far as I can see DA has not changed in the many years, decades that it's around.

In how DA profiles itself to the public/customers always have been a little bit different than most companies. For example there is no big support team, a call center, a PR department, social media etc.

It's more focused on just delivering the control panel and keeping prices low. Which other panel which offers the same offers these prices? Only a lifetime sub for example is something quite special this time and age.

cPanel does have things listed above, however they are way more expensive. And even so, I don't find them that important.

Real innovation in the hosting industry for the last few years in my opinion is CloudLinux, not a control panel per se, but it integrates into panels, such as DA.

 

[ikkeben]

If you are still in business... some thoughts...

1. Have some social media presence even if it's just a twitter account. Anything to let people know you are still alive.
2. Have a directory of directadmin hosting companies or encourage them to post hosting offers in this forum.

Active Twitter account slurps time and resources! Better the support in this Support Forum and docs. is my...
I 'm really not waiting for marketing on a support forum, a "sponsor page" ok but no marketing in forum itself, the mess then of arguing about hosters and offers and so on hmm no non no !

Dead

you don't do this if you aren't alive http://forum.directadmin.com/showthread.php?t=54853

PR / MArketing comes with costs and you have to pay for the extra resources time also, in the end only if win win is assured, but a lot of times for Custommers / users the costs are also rising, so "low profile smaller company", low license cost could be a good choice if they want to keep it in their own hands.

You now pl.sk ofcourse hosting company's make more money with that CP but in my opinion this cp could be a real .. in the as.. if you have to be "somewhat secure" fast enough after a security bug is known! (the costs for such fixes could be high if you want them done extra before waiting for a official patch, i'm not only mean money also problems with the CP if you fix "outside" this cp)

Da is really fast with that kind of fixes!

IN my opinion the Hosting Companys that offer more CP's with different price tags could be a better choice, nothing to choose is hmm, but also you can get your server / VPS without CP and get the license yourself thats OK, support is then DA Support so what do you think.... some Hosting Company's would prefer then to make more and easy money.. ?