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All these arguments you name here are invalid. - goodwill (already since the beginning) - an end to all these topics (it's 2 years now, it won't stop anyway) - free marketing (already since the beginning) - greater conversion rates (it's 2 years, I can't look inside DA but I highly doubt a lot...

But in who's interest would that be? Not for DA in anyway because it's not "not the best revenu" but "no revenu at all" as these licenses are all long payed for, many more than a decade ago. And all the new development must come from somewhere, so not from all lifetime licenses or al customers...

That was the idea I had in mind, which was why I suggested that test. Trying to create a new user/pass for the database would have been the follow up on that. Glad to see you fixed it!

Thank you very much for enlightening this to me/us. I was just wondering if and how many fixes there would be released and how many already were released in the meantime for an EOL MariaDB to get a small insight of how often this might happen. As stated in my previous post, iit still is a...

Have you checked the MariaDB/Mysql log what that says? Was it fully up to date before the update, even plugins? Might be a caching issue. Did you check if you can manually connect to the database of that wordpress file with a test file? Found a nice example on the net. Create a php file like...

I just checked the backporting of MariaDB 10.5 (which is already EOL) and this was an update of November 7th. And this was a moderate security issue not even a high one. So maybe I was partly mistaken. While it's ofcourse not as safe as an up to date version, it looks like backporting (which is...

Yep, me too, but at least they finally did it. However, if you would define it as abandonwear you wouln't still keep using without any addition either right? :)

Define "supported"? IMHO in software land "forever" means "as long as it's available and no hard EOL is declared or a company does not go broke or get's sold". So that's what I learned in the past years what forever or lifetime means. They already can do that, but if they do, the connection...

Well... one is never too old to learn either and I learned something new today, at least for me this was a bit new how this worked. ;) Backporting in the OS means nothing more then only in excessive cases (even while EOL), the MariaDB devs would create a security fix after something very very...

You also restarted Exim after making these changes?

You were the one being rude. And again... where is the proof here? And why didn't you complaint abou tthis years ago with CSF itself then? Again, whining whining whining without any kind of proof or good argument and now also insulting us. Says more of you than about us. Also, if it only does...

For what else, we only do hosting? It's only MariaDB which will go EOL and it's not 1 but 6 licenses and 3 servers in use. Switching means 45/month extra (when converting these 3), so with MariaDB from the OS update, we probably can go the last few years until our pension. Most of the...

Might.... but still the other counter arguments are still present, as is my question what be so bad with my idea to have DA to allow us to downgrade to MariaDB 10.5 and then have the OS support the updates. If I remember correctly this was tested, should be even a thread about it somewhere...

1.) one needs a second server/vps to put the database on, which not everyone can afford or want (just for database) 2.) you loose the connection to manage it from DA so you have to make all databases manually? Or can this still be done via Directadmin? 3.) you then will depend on external...

You can keep lying about that it doesn't work all you want, nobody will believe you without any proof. So you can keep whining, but you were asked several times to proof your point, which you still haven't because you can't. Seems you have been a sleep too. There have been lots changes from 2010...

Yep I know, but then it is what you say, you can't manage the database in Directadmin. So it would be easier if we could downgrade to 10.5 and then have the OS keep doing the updates and we could keep managing the database from Directadmin. No special development of DA was required than anymore...

You mean the Personal Plus plan... there is no Pro Plus. ;)

I think you're the one with your head up your tail and as people know me and know I can believe some people think, but you make a lot of statements without any arguments or proove and this is an all too easy way to duck out. Clear nonsense. As CSF does not mimic anything, it's a shell to...

Unfortunately I don't agree with this. DA has done his best just to not do this so people could have a bit longer from their lifetime licenses, especially the ones bought at a later time. Ofcourse I agree that some will use ancient stuff, but it's not DA's task to protect users against this...

Well... if you want to discuss, then come with arguments or proof. Becuse it has and still is working ad designed. Otherwise it would have rained complaints which it didn't. Also panels like cPanel (expensive) and DA were using it by default. For sure they would have not integrated it as it...