Directadmin - Falling behind?
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Becuase it is old.
Yes, I've seen just about every relevant hosting panel in the market, and they do update it every once in a while.
Directadmin looks old becuase it is old. The site looks old, becuase it is old. Just read at the content.
Even this forum makes me sick.
Now, if sacrificing these updates gives them the time they need to work on the important stuff, then that's ok. We understand.
But come on guys,. just update the site, skins and forum a little won't you?
Richard G
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Why. I've seen the "new" version of vBulletin. The 4.0 stuff. And even that layout looks old and I don't even like that layout. Which makes it look more like some other brand forum or like some default Wordpress layout.
Sure it's old, but it's effective and easy to use.
IMHO it's more important that DA is doing the changes they are making now (like putting pure-ftpd in DA) then having another forum skin.
Sure it's old, but it's effective and easy to use.
IMHO it's more important that DA is doing the changes they are making now (like putting pure-ftpd in DA) then having another forum skin.
nobaloney
NoBaloney Internet Svcs - In Memoriam †
I saw a 1957 Chevy on the road the other day. It's old. And it looks old. I'd trade my new car for it any day.
But maybe that's because I'm old. I was under 12 and a half years old when that Chevy was new.
Jeff
But maybe that's because I'm old
. I was under 12 and a half years old when that Chevy was new.Jeff
nobaloney
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Only because new ones generally are less troublesome. Old cars are simpler, and when parts are available, they're easier to maintain. Under the hood DirectAdmin is new. I'm not sure what you mean by looks old; if you hadn't seen it before it would look new.
For example, I used Plesk years ago; it looks different now, and I suppose since I hadn't seen it years ago, I'd agree it looks new. But I really don't like the new look. Or the new functionality.
We'll have to agree to disagree on this one, then. I like the enhanced DirectAdmin skin, and my clients do as well; except for the ones who still use the original skin.
Jeff
Basically, the whole point of creating this thread (which I had no idea it was going to survive this long), was just a shoutout to Directadmin. Just to let them know that while they're working on keeping things tight, they are completely abandoning the looks and feels of things.
I, as a paying customer, would really appreciate a little bit of atention to how we look on the outside. It would make me feel more confortable as a Directadmin customer.
A little bit of response from Directadmin would also be great. I don't think that I'm asking for too much here.
I, as a paying customer, would really appreciate a little bit of atention to how we look on the outside. It would make me feel more confortable as a Directadmin customer.
A little bit of response from Directadmin would also be great. I don't think that I'm asking for too much here.
Richard G
Verified User
We now that -it is- old, band ofcourse you can start a thread with your idea's.
But new is not always better, I also said I don't like the modern look of vBulletin at all.
You are not askign for too much. But my guess is that DA also looks how others react to your idea. They won't change things because a couple of people would like to see a newer more modern design.
If a lot of people agree with you, then change will come in due time.
Indeed we have to wait for a response of Directadmin how they think about the idea.
But you also have to respect others opinions, who do like the old stuff, no mather what (including me).
But new is not always better, I also said I don't like the modern look of vBulletin at all.
You are not askign for too much. But my guess is that DA also looks how others react to your idea. They won't change things because a couple of people would like to see a newer more modern design.
If a lot of people agree with you, then change will come in due time.
Indeed we have to wait for a response of Directadmin how they think about the idea.
But you also have to respect others opinions, who do like the old stuff, no mather what (including me).
Here it is : http://www.directadmin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=38561
Jlasman, I would feel comfortable removing this thread now that we have the new poll in place.
The poll should reflect how everyone feels.
Cheers
Jlasman, I would feel comfortable removing this thread now that we have the new poll in place.
The poll should reflect how everyone feels.
Cheers
nobaloney
NoBaloney Internet Svcs - In Memoriam †
I'm going to leave it and leave it open, because it certainly can cover, should cover, and maybe even does cover, other issues besides the latest skin look.
Jeff
Jeff
tlchost
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Perhaps they have not responded since a large number of posts seem to indicate many folks are satisified with the current look and feel.
Sorry, but that's not the general consensus.
Most people are chosing between "Making DA look better" and "Keeping directadmin updated and secure", and chosing the second. But that's not what was in question. I have been complaining about DA's completely outdated site and skins.
These complaints are the ones that have been completely ignored (in a way). I know they made an attempt to come out with a new skin, the good ole Darwin skin, which I personally spent a few hours giving my feedback and sending design suggestions.
This just completely blows. Getting burnt out trying to convince people of DA's big picture.
Most people are chosing between "Making DA look better" and "Keeping directadmin updated and secure", and chosing the second. But that's not what was in question. I have been complaining about DA's completely outdated site and skins.
These complaints are the ones that have been completely ignored (in a way). I know they made an attempt to come out with a new skin, the good ole Darwin skin, which I personally spent a few hours giving my feedback and sending design suggestions.
This just completely blows. Getting burnt out trying to convince people of DA's big picture.
tlchost
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I stand corrected:
Yes, the site and skins look old and need to look more modern 8 44.44%
No, I like the way things are. 1 5.56%
I don't care 9
50.00%
So, is it more accurate to say that 50 per cent of the responders really don't care?
I wonder how many of your customers look at the DA site? Have you lost any because of the DA site's look and feel?
Who do you have to convince? Do you loose business because of DA's look?
If you do, it's in your best interest to make changes that benefit you.
Thom
sloop
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The problem with this thread is that it is just a general vague bitch and moan thread.
As Thom pointed out, it would be more constructive to recommend specific features and explain how they would work and their advantages. These should be spelled out in 1 feature per thread, so that we can discuss specific points instead of arguing about what it is we are discussing.
As a side-note:
If you want to show your customers a newer skin, then you can work on building one!
If you want certain billing functions/features, that is outside of what a control panel should do. DA has a great API and customization system so you can integrate billing with it.
As Thom pointed out, it would be more constructive to recommend specific features and explain how they would work and their advantages. These should be spelled out in 1 feature per thread, so that we can discuss specific points instead of arguing about what it is we are discussing.
As a side-note:
If you want to show your customers a newer skin, then you can work on building one!
If you want certain billing functions/features, that is outside of what a control panel should do. DA has a great API and customization system so you can integrate billing with it.
@sloop: You call it bitching, but I call it feedback. Isn't this the feedback forum? In essense, I'm sharing how I feel about a certain situation.
@TLChost
The poll just started, it's not safe to say anything. Let's pretend that it ends up with those results anyways.
Let's say I was to go ahead and listen to my that 44% of my customer base, and just update my site. That would mean that 44% + 50% of my customer base would be happy. That's 94% of my customer base being happy. (In the event I threw someone off, 50% are still going to be happy if I update the site, becuase they expressed that they just didn't care if I did or not update my site).
Now what would happen if I said "Uhmm,. well more people don't care, then people that do". That would only yield to 56% of your customer base being happy.
Now imagine this poll was created by one of your customers on your site.
Would you update your site?
Imagine you're in a yearly meeting with your company's marketing team and you ask to vote on wether to update your company's site.
44% want to update it,
6% want to leave it as it is,
50% don't care.
What decision would you take?
@TLChost
The poll just started, it's not safe to say anything. Let's pretend that it ends up with those results anyways.
Let's say I was to go ahead and listen to my that 44% of my customer base, and just update my site. That would mean that 44% + 50% of my customer base would be happy. That's 94% of my customer base being happy. (In the event I threw someone off, 50% are still going to be happy if I update the site, becuase they expressed that they just didn't care if I did or not update my site).
Now what would happen if I said "Uhmm,. well more people don't care, then people that do". That would only yield to 56% of your customer base being happy.
Now imagine this poll was created by one of your customers on your site.
Would you update your site?
Imagine you're in a yearly meeting with your company's marketing team and you ask to vote on wether to update your company's site.
44% want to update it,
6% want to leave it as it is,
50% don't care.
What decision would you take?
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tlchost
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But you are not polling end users here...so the results of the poll here may have little or no meaning.
BTW, did I miss your answer about how much business/customers you've lost due to the out of date DA?
Oh yes....have you run a poll of your customers? Can you share the results with us?
Thom