Yeah I saw that while googling. I just was hoping to know if it's better to delete in the users conf files (which I did) or to change the httpd.conf and edit out the lines for hte whole server. I don't know what effect that may have. I believe it's the module mod_logio it requires for logging but don't see where I can comment it out in the build. I am apache 2.2 btw. So far the removal of just my biggest site has improved some performance and I see a lot less processes in lockf state.