FrontPage Extension Question / Request...

rldev said:
You should be able to submit a form regardless if you accessed the site via www or not.
While I'm NOT a FrontPage expert, I believe the only way you can guarantee an FPX website will work the same way with and without the host extension (usually www) is by rewriting example.com to www.exmaple.com.

That's because FPX understand the website as www.example.com, and NOT as example.com.

Jeff
 
Gentlemen...

To be clear... my issues ARE that the administrative portion of FP isn't working properly. I can make the forms work fine now. What I had to do to achieve this was to go into the form properties on the "live" site and point (browse) to the resulting "form_results.htm" file. It sounds a little odd but that makes it work for me. Now, if I can get the other features to work... ;)
 
jlasman said:
While I'm NOT a FrontPage expert, I believe the only way you can guarantee an FPX website will work the same way with and without the host extension (usually www) is by rewriting example.com to www.exmaple.com.

That's because FPX understand the website as www.example.com, and NOT as example.com.

Jeff

What do you mean by:

"rewriting example.com to www.exmaple.com."

?
 
My apache books are buried somewhere and I don't have time to look for them right now.

You can look up "Rewrite" in apache documentation; it'll give you the information you need so that when someone types "example.com" into their browser, it'll be changed to www.example.com.

Jeff
 
Ok I didn't know you were talking about mod_rewrite. I have Fp extensions installed on my current server(No DA). FP Admin works and no mod rewrite is needed for FP to function with or without "www". Is it possible that FP has a problem with the way DA configures the Vhost entries? I really haven't heard of this being a problem on the other major control panels, not that FP doesn't have a boatload of issues. I can even publish to FP via ip address.
 
The only control panels I've ever used with FPX do an automatic rewrite; you type in example.com, and it gets rewritten by www.example.com.

My explanation was a paraphrase of stuff I've read elsewhere.

As I've written previously, I'm not an FPX expert, and I don't use it myself, so I guess I'm at the end of what I can help with, outside of a paid support request I can send on to my FPX expert.

Jeff
 
Thanks Jeff. It might be worth paying for to have this looked into. I will see what I can dig up over the next week.
 
Please don't consider my post as a solicitation. I think this is something we could pass on to DirectAdmin support and get a response from them.

Have you tried that?

Jeff
 
I was not offended by anything you said. I didn't take it as a solicitation. I have passed it on to DA Support and their response was as if this is isolated. When I get things rolling a bit, I will see if I can work with them on this.
 
I have passed it on to DA Support and their response was as if this is isolated.

I can assure you this is NOT the case, as I have the same problem...

My temporary solution was to setup the site with 2 Index pages...one called index.html and one called index.htm

index.html is the one that pops up by default if you just type www.domain.com OR domain.com (minus the www) in your browser, so I set it to automatically forward them to http://WWW.domain.com/index.htm that way if they came in without the www, it is now there.

Since the frontpage forms ONLY work when the www is present on the domain, all my pages now have explicit URL's with the whole domain as part of the address instead of relative URL's that only list page and directory, in case someone comes in to a page from a search engine and its not corrected by the autoforward.
 
Wow a lot of patch work. These types of issues can really hamper moving my fp clients to DA.

I will not assume, but this seems to be related to the DA implementation. Is there anyone who doesn't have a problem with this whole "www" alias thing?
 
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rldev said:
I was not offended by anything you said. I didn't take it as a solicitation.
Glad to hear it.

If you'd like I can temporarily give you a domain account on one of my systems and you can try an FPX site there, to determine if the problem is local to your machine or not.

Let me know by private email (address below in sig) if you'd like me to set up an account for you to test.

Jeff
 
FP forms

It's definitely not an isolated case because I have the same FP forms problems. Also, I have seen other posts with the same problem. If people come in without the WWW they are welcomed with a pop-up that asks them for the user name and password.

I don't know much about the server end but it seems that there should be some kind of rewrite for the apache server or mod with DA so that all users using FrontPage don't have to make modifications.

Mark
Sonomalinks.com
 
FP forms

It's definitely not an isolated case because I have the same FP forms problems. Also, I have seen other posts with the same problem. If people come in without the WWW they are welcomed with a pop-up that asks them for the user name and password.

I don't know much about the server end but it seems that there should be some kind of rewrite for the apache server or mod with DA so that all users using FrontPage don't have to make modifications.

Mark
Sonomalinks.com
 
Well the good news is that John got my FPAdmin working well. DA is going to add a link in the FP portion of the cp to access the FP admin.

So really the only issue that will remain is the www alias problem. I have to say it is strange indeed. I have looked at a handful of non DA systems and I can not figure out what the problem is. Jeff you mentioned coming accross some data on the Net about this? I couldn't find anything. Maybe some links handy?

Folks, John is definitely working on this issue, he wants to get it corrected.

I suppose at the very least the FP extension setup could put a redirect in the .htaccess file. However, this is not a fix, but a patch.
 
BTW,
Can anyone verify that the FPAmind does not work in the FireFox Browser. Every time you go to execute a command it just spits out a coded page.
 
I'm sorry, I just don't have any further information on FPX. I'm willing to let you set up an account on one of my servers for testing purposes. Please let me know if you're interested.

Jeff
 
Hello Jeff,
Thanks. I have a couple of accounts setup on different servers. This was something I was just trying to make others aware of and wanted to confirm.
 
Hi guys,

I hate to open this up again, but I can't seem to get the
Frontpage Admin link to function.

When I click on it, it asks for the username and password,
after entering it I get "The page cannot be found" page.

[DA v1.23.0]


Thanks

Dan
 
Hi Dan... I have been having this same issue (as you described) for months. I have tried a couple of things that John suggested and it made NO difference. It is VERY frustrating... especially when you deal with a lot of clients who really need FP to work properly... I get tired of coming up with work arounds and giving excuses to my clients about why FP doesn't work properly on my server.

I have been quiet for several weeks now about this issue because I have more or less given up on it. I hope that at some point the DA team will resolve it though as I believe there will always be people who need FP. What really bugs me though is the fact that some people seem to have all of the functionality built into FP... and some of us do not.

DA 1.23.1
 
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