General documentation?

I'm going to be bulding a wiki again as soon as I catch up on some work, and then I'll make a general annuncement in these forums for help.

Meanwhile, let's start thinking of a table of contents; we can fill it later :).

Jeff
 
One of the problems with the image was that some essential things like logrotate had not been installed by the Xen image dropper. I was curious to know whether the DA had something to do with it but it seems to be an error in the Xen image (or whatever they call it).

I did a CentOS xen installation from some prepackaged archive I found on the web somewhere. It was very incomplete as you said missing important things like logrotate and mine was also missing the 'run-parts' command so cron jobs didnt work. I suggest doing a complete CentOS install in your xen domU first. Or maybe 'yum groupinstall Base' would fix it.

The DA knowledgebase is pretty good, I recommend starting there as its easier to navigate than the forum.
 
Which Wiki?

I'm going to be bulding a wiki again as soon as I catch up on some work,

If it's one that Installatron offers...it might take all of a few minutes to have it up and running. If you're too busy to do that, I can set one up in the next few minutes.
 
I thought one of the problems is that we already had too many places to look for information. We have the forum, the knowledgebase, and site-helper.com. You have to look at all of these places because some contain information that the others don't. And now we are suggesting adding yet some place else to have to look for information?

We need at most 2 places. One place for information to be posted and a forum where people can ask questions. All the answers to questions in the forum should then be posted on the wiki or knowledgebase or whatever.

I don't think people want to have to search through 4 different places to find what they are looking for.
 
But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
While I agree with you, Floyd, that there are already too many places to look, not many of them are really authoritative; not even these forums.

The knowledgebase is good, but it's not a full set of documentation.

site-helper.com is good, but it's not always up-to-date, and it says nothing about many things you need to know/do if you've got a DirectAdmin server.

The reason I'm putting up a wiki is so we can build an authoritative documentation set, much like the encyclopedic wikipedia, and hopefully at least as correct :).

Why me? Because I'm willing to do it, and because of my large number of posts (hopefully many of them helpful) I'm likely to be considered a reasonable authority by people who will work on it, and by people who will read it.

For example, do you subscribe to the DirectAdmin mailing list? It runs from one of my domains.

I know I'm busy but I'll set up the wiki tonight and announce it in these forums.

Then just email me (my address in my sig, below) with a paragraph or two, so I know I can trust you. One person will get the rights to run the wiki, and the rest to contribute.

Then we'll finally see if we can build a helpful documentation set.

Tonight (my time). Promise :)

Jeff
 
If it's one that Installatron offers...it might take all of a few minutes to have it up and running. If you're too busy to do that, I can set one up in the next few minutes.
Installatron offers MediaWiki; the same one that Wikipedia uses. It's incredibly robust, but ... as one of my correspondents puts it:
In my experience MediaWiki is robust, but it's a pain in the neck to
administer, and administer well (security considerations are expecially
cumbersome). DocuWiki is EXACTLY the same from the users point of view, but
IMHO it's easier to administer (for example assigning permissions doesn't
require MANUAL SQL queries, there's an interface for such things).
So We're going to go with DocuWiki.

Which I'll get installed tonight (my time) and the post a thread.

Jeff
 
Installatron offers MediaWiki; the same one that Wikipedia uses. It's incredibly robust, but ... as one of my correspondents puts it:

Gee....I guess I'm too naive to realize the wiki I have up is hard to administer and has security problems....I'll be sure to pass the comments of your correspondent on to the guys that administer the wiki....they need to know they're working too hard :D

Hope you have beeter luck with this one than the first attempt.
 
I do, too. So far I can't even find the download; I'm not sure if it's spelled dokuwiki (k) or docuwiki (c), so I've asked my advisor for more advice <smile>.

The new site is ready (though it may take a bit longer for the DNS to spread because we use a hidden master system).

It's at www.dagurus.com (or perhaps wiki.dagurus.com, if that works better).

But nothing there yet. Soon.

As I learned during the U.S. Congressional hearings this week:
The last time I heard I had to act quickly was when buying a used car.
We can hopefully wait a day longer to get it done.

Jeff
 
Maybe we can talk to DA support and ask them for a subdomain wiki.site-helper.com or something.
 
Ask DirectAdmin staff if you want; they may tell you it's okay for me to create a semi-official wiki. For example, they (and I, occasionally) are the only posters to the (I suppose only semi-) official DirectAdmin mailing list for notification of updates to DirectAdmin, which I host.

:)

Jeff
 
More on the Wiki ...

The wiki by default requires what would be very insecure directory and file settings if it were running under mod_php.

I'm setting up a machine today using suPHP, and I'll get it running as soon as I have that server running.

Jeff
 
The machine was up and running Saturday night. I took yesterday off; I had two free passes and one free parking ticket to the Los Angeles County Fair, so I decided to go and spend some money :).

Next three days I'm incredibly busy but I am trying to get it installed.

Jeff
 
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