I'm curious if anyone has ever tried using the Linux GUI with DirectAdmin?

- GUI tools coordinate changes to text files.
- Graphing performance.
- Development and debugging tools in the environment they will be run in.
- Better text editors.
- A decent web browser for finding and pulling down files.
- Easier to check system status and do updates
- Real database management tools
It's the difference between MSDOS and Windows Server.
 
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It's the difference between MSDOS and Windows Server.
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Man... LoL, you can even make a horse laugh. ? (Dutch saying)

As the rest might be true, I really really wouldn't ever make a comparison between MSDOS and Windows Server for Linux console and Linux with GUI.

You also now that with Windows Server everything works way slower then with Linux server right? So that is a very odd comparison imho. Probably will slow down things too.

And you probably need some kind of remote desktop tool to view your Linux GUI, just as with Windows.
 
- Web and File Server Comparison - gr&d

Actually, for monitoring I have a couple FreeBSD VMs that run Zabbix I just haven't wired into the newer VMs but I'd better get one of those wired in for tuning Linux because I don't know what I'm doing in it and I'll need to quantify if it will do the job for us and to do that I need to know where the problems are and prove if they are resolvable and measure the impact of changes. We are actually transitioning and getting rid of web hosting customers so we really won't need a control panel for the most part.
 
I'm using munin for monitoring.

IT_Architect said:
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I almost can't believe that as I experienced myself that the webserver on Apache with RH 7 was running faster than IIS on NT4 domain controller, same for mail handling. However, they are probably correct.
But in that case I'm more curious as to a modern comparison and not with samba, but with real hosting stuff on it. So apache and mail.

Also compare things on the same stuff. NT always had a GUI. But a GUI uses resources. Try Linux with and without GUI and I can guarantee you that Linux with a GUI is slower because it uses more resources. Not to mention that since it needs a lot of more drivers and the more you use, the more risk something crashes. Generally speaking. Because if you benetif more in your business situation from a GUI, this matters a lot less.

Anyway, even if the speed comparison is correct (but it's NT4 so years ago), your example was still apples and pears. Because Linux with a Gui is rather comparable to MSDOS with Windows 3.11 (or 95), because those have the same kernel, and just a GUI added.
While NT has a totally different kernel so is totally different from MSDOS in the basics to begin with, that's why I had fun with your statement.

So I've seen the speed comparison, but I've never seen Windows being faster than Linux so I still find it as odd.

Anyway, I can imagine that it's worth to test it and see what happens, especially if you are getting rid of web hosting customers. But what are you planning to do then without the control panel? Only monitoring or a completely differnet kind of business?
I'm just curious.
 
Actually that was a comparison that started as a challenge by Red Hat bloviating all over the place. FINALLY, Microsoft took them up on the challenge and slaughtered Red Hat. For damage control Red Hat pooh-poohed the results when THEY are the ones that pretty much set the table how things would be done.

HOWEVER, You missed a key point, the gr&d. That was then. We started out on shared hosting but things grew pretty fast. They promise unlimited and call it abuse as soon as you lay a load on them. For dedicated, people were selling Linux hosts. The Linux kernel was a piece of work for a long time which is how I ended up on FreeBSD. Linux could NOT take a load without falling over. It can't be getting knocked over that easy today or people wouldn't use it on shared hosting, and back then none of the big hosing sites like ThePlanet, iPower, etc. didn't use it for shared hosting. Linux was the geeky thing to do so there were hosting providers who had and and said they could do the job, no problem. No they couldn't. One said they would set up FreeBSD machine for us and as soon as they did, they said we had a week to leave because of the traffic, so unlimited gets called abuse, and that is how they get out of that. Server fees and Google ads were about even. When I talked to pinciple at ThePlanet he said we were too small from a server volume standpoint and way too much traffic for most vendor's infrastructures. He said then, keep in mind these three things. For shared hosting or high traffic hosting, you want FreeBSD, for applications you want Linux, for Microsoft apps you go Windows. SAVVIS took us in. (They were/are? considered a national asset and guarded by the military and where most of the world's banking servers were at that time.) I talked to real engineer there and he gave me the same line. He said, you want FreeBSD, and if you need a control panel you want DirectAdmin. I'd only ever heard of cPanel. He said cPanel takes resources you can't afford. I checked it out and it was in beta. I mentioned that. He said, I'm not going to recommend you use it in a production environment. Well maybe he wouldn't but I was kind of stuck. Instantly, we could handle the traffic reliably and making money. It would be a long time before Linux could stand up. Linux would get to load 8 and things fall over. FreeBSD could be under attack at 400 and you could log in...slowly, and defeat the attacks. Heck, email wouldn't stop until 65-79. They contacted us a couple times and said they would be will to move us in their data center for better response if we wanted. We took them up on it. There was one part that was a little frustrating, and that was response time sometimes, because it was supported. It might take and hour or more before someone could get to it and you were never sure how things were set up. Then I learned of how a group left ThePlanet and started SoftLayer. I didn't think much of it at the time, but after they were running for about 5 months, I decided to give them a call. WOW! They had everything I needed with a VPN, portable IPS, KVM, virtual power switches, lots of bandwidth, and good prices, and bare metal where I could build what I needed, and a lock-box where I could copy up an ISO to boot from. SAVVIS had been VERY good to us and gave us incredibly powerful servers, but Softlayer is where I needed to go, and I could get ThePlanet-type infrastructure to work in. I decided I always wanted to try virtual, and had been dabbling with VMWare before they were VMWare and in a basement corner at COMDEX Chicago and the hardware wasn't there and the software cost more than the extra hardware. So, I got ESX and put it on a new server before we moved out of SAVVIS. VMWare engineers said that we were no match for the purpose of the server. My argument was, your sales pitch is to consolidate underutilized servers which means adding load. They said it would not work very good. My partner said we could add the smaller sites and see how much it can take. I thought about and decided, no, I'm going to install the OS bare metal and run the stars out of it and measure the results. Then I'm going to put ESX down and the OS on top and run the stars out of it and measure the results. I found a guy who had been running it for a while and an engineer at VMWare. I learned a lot about how my thinking had to change between the oh-so-logical hardware and ESX and VMs. However, they learned a lot from me too. They learned that for disk, VMFS doubled my disk performance over UFS on bare metal. On the CPU, when you are set up right, you will lose 25%., but cores were comparatively cheap even then, and ESX didn't take much RAM itself. Now throw in over provisioning of all resources, snapshots where you can roll backward and forward to any point in the tree, backups you can mount, I never wanted to see bare metal again. Windows was trying to get into the web game and for a short time, I could get 2003 Server Standard 32 or 64 for free, and the 32 came with the ability to do NFS. So, I ordered two more machines with 2003 server, did P2V on them, hosed the servers and put the newly releases ESXi on them, with the 2003 Server Standard VMs to project NFS volumes. The deal with ESXi then was it was very expensive if you wanted to be able to back it up, BUT it could also store VMs on NFS volumes. Bingo! I had a free virtual infrastructure and automatic backups between servers at night using the standard tools that come with ESXi. Everyone told me that the backup performance would be poor and I'd be better with a bare metal target or a ?NIX VM NAS in FreeBSD or Linux. I found that to not be true and Windows was far more stable. I opened up ESXi itself to run scripts that would be run by Windows programs that come with PuTTY and a Windows graphical scheduler to manage the backups, check for updates required on the ?NIX and Windows VMs and E-Mail me the results every morning 15 minutes before the workday starts. I don't have a dime in operating systems. A guy spent a lot of time later make a program to called GhettoVCB to do what I was doing and I went with it because he keeps up the updates to this day. Those 2003 Servers are running fine to this day as well. As things progressed, FreeBSD EOLs got shorter and shorter, an then you get problems with ports, and then it doesn't make sense for DA to put a lot of work into it, and now after 12, not at all, and how I got back to Linux, but it might be a horse we can ride, and if not, we really don't need a control panel.

I don't know if you've used ZABBIX or not, but it is tremendous for analyzing because it keeps history and graphs over time that are highly detailed. and you can see in a snapshot in time what was going on when and merge graphs to show say MySQL loads, processes, Apache, CPU, network, traffic, memory, and disk traffic. It will send texts, e-mails at certain points if you wish and the reason it beat the stars out of nagios was it is all in one integrated package. It's also easier to set up your own Being able to see trends is huge too and then be able to investigate what was happening at certain times and have available everything that was going on at that time.

Windows has one HUGE thing going for it, and that is its API. That caused the IBM/Microsoft split. IBM took the OS/2 that was ready to go, and Gates took Portable OS/2 Lan Manager which wasn't ready. and why when they split, IBM thought they were going to slide OS/2 out front with its ability to run Windows programs. The split was over Gate's vision for the Windows API and IBM's vision. Not only did the IBM OS/2 API vision not well thought out, the quality wasn't there. A friend who owned a large software language company at the time was pushing Intel OS/2 and I was one who played with both and proved to him that the betas of Portable OS/2, renamed Windows NT, were more stable. He blamed his developers for problems he was having. One day he called me and said, You were right. The OS/2 API is not just inferior to get where you want to go, it is impossible because it is loaded with bugs. To this day, there is no match for Win32/64. Not even the MAC comes close, and certainly not ?NIX. Microsoft had the business mobile world tied up until Balmer flushed it and went with a rinky-dink Zune Gaming OS that he renamed Windows Phone, closed off multitasking to Microsoft-only, started their app store, and decided he was going to be Apple. The iPhone had few apps, and Android wasn't something people had heard of. However, every phone manufacturer outside of Apple needed an OS, Microsoft was putting a lock on them with no apps and the Windows phone developers were hamstrung, so they all left for Android, which was more open like the previous Windows environment. That was an incredible gift to the ?NIX world. That rinky-dink OS would later be known as Windows RT on the tablets and nobody wanted that either. Windows couldn't sell a tablet until they put real Windows on their tablets with the WIN32/64 API on it that could run real Windows programs instead of the zune/metro/modern/universal apps. Win32/64 was been tweaked and refined with assembler in areas and it has no match for efficiency at what it does nor the primitives needed by developers, sofves DLL Hell, 10 years of updates, granular security, ties between client and server for apps and licensing, etc. HOWEVER, these days, Linux can beat the performance of Windows in a lot of areas because it doesn't have any this going on. However, for technical people running a web server, they don't need all that. Microsoft was granted the rights to (from Sybase where MSSQL came from) to sell to the ?NIX world. Previously, they could only sell it to the Windows world. Nothing comes close to beating MSSQL on a normalized database, but even THEIR benchmarks show that Linux can run it faster than Windows at very high performance levels.
 
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HOWEVER, You missed a key point, the gr&d.
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That might be because I'm not native English. I don't know what gr&d means. :)

Oef that was a bit of a hard reading without new lines and alineas but a good story. But really... would be nice to think of that a bit more to keep things readable.

I never used Zabbix, only Munin, I don't know why, maybe Munin needed less resources or I found it more easy to install.
Mostly because it was more of a hobby, we didn't really need monitoring.
It also sends text emails, I was glad I had it when email traffic went a bit high due to spammers. I got notices in time and could fastly shutdown the cause of the issue.

OS/2... there you get me going. I had a multinode BBS or at least wanted to start one. That wasn't possible on MSDOS so I needed something else. At that time Windows 95 was out so I used that but OMG that was bad, working on 14k4 it was as if users were back to 2400 baud building up the screens.
So I switched to OS/2 and wow... what a difference. Seemd W95 was more task switching and OS/2 was really multitasking. Maybe it was not but it looked that way. Under OS/2 I could have 2 users online, doing my echomail or netmail with Golded and the online users hardly noticed it, while under W95 I couldn't even open Golded when 2 users were online otherwise everything was so slow that people would rather disconnect.

I almost never used API's though myself, so I have no clue about those things. But at least the HPFS and the boot manager were better then the one from msdos or windows at that time.
Indeed NT is/was probably better and more stable, but as home user, we didn't use NT at that time, apart from the fact that we needed to run games in a 16bit environment in those days.
I'm personally not as happy with windows 32/64 as you are, at least up and with Windows 7 I was satisfied. Except for the fact of regular blue screens of odd causes. But I had loads of network issues (and still) for local sharing since W10 1803. They still did not solve that correctly. Some systems do the trick, others you can get it to work, they had a lot of wifi issues.... it was all Windows ME again troublewise.

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Not even Oracle?
I don't know if Access is also using MSSQL, probably not. We had issues on Access databases that they got odd issues starting at a certain number of records, if you went over that, you would have a ball. So on my work in that time, we got over to Oracle.
However, I never did database stuff myself so I don't have a clue on which is better or faster, they only thing I know is not to use access for bigger projects.
 
Here is the story with Oracle.
- It is a capable database. It has some really great, well-thought-out features. To keep it fast (somewhat) you need a dba analyzing it if the organization is of any size. They use invented names for industry standard functionality. If Oracle had a car dealership, they would not advertise them as cars. They would insist they are not cars, but rather their revolutionary invention of the Pneumatically Suspended Personal Transporter. So when you are setting up and learning it, if it is the only thing you've learned, everything else is foreign.
- In Automotive ERP it is known as Dr. Slow. There is a reason MSSQL is getting very expensive and set up to run on very large hardware. I brought things up like this before when evaluating getting involved with SAP. The answer was, "Those decisions are made on the golf course."
- I haven't worked in Oracle for quite a few years now but I can tell you my experience with it. If you want to import a lot of data, nothing can beat Oracle. If you want to find unindexed data, nothing beats Oracle.
- Software that have multiple database choices, with one of them being Oracle, the Oracle version is very coordinated with Oracle and takes a lot of work to get it to be fast because it was not smart. When you have a normalized database and the orderby crosses tables, you have to know ahead of time what the queries would be so you could play with their tools to "hint" to it which indexes to use even though it seems obvious. There has been the million dollar reward if anyone can beat Oracle that was laid down by Larry Ellison. The key is, it needs to be a method approved by them, yes the devil is in the details. Nobody beats Oracle in a table scan.
- Some of us guys would meet once a year in Florida from the US, England, Netherlands, Germany, Sweden, and Australia to learn from each other but also resolve challenges. One time I took a friend with me and he said to me on the way down there, You've made some pretty bold claims. My reply was, if I'm wrong, I will have learned something. One of them was Extensie, a main Oracle reseller in Europe at the time and maybe still is. Another major challenger was a DBA from a large insurance company. My friend watched, but by 7:00 PM that day, I had no more challengers. Extensie's answer was, we make good money selling Oracle and it's a good product. That happened in the Motor City after that also. It happened again online with Sybase, but as the argument progressed, it became apparent to all, and that;s how I ended up getting called by a TV network because they were on Sybase. At one point I hated MSSQL, but it can resolve a query in an efficient manner. Extensie couldn't even beat it using hints. I was the head of IT of 280 million sales Tier-1 automotive supplier and I can tell you that was nowhere near big enough to have Oracle make sense. It would have been slower, and cost us thousands of man-hours more coding apps. We got GM Mark of Excellence, top 3%, and they didn't want me to go to Boca, which turned out to be a good thing. This got me notoriety, publications, and IBM wanted put their equipment in the business and promised publicity to the company for it. I said their proposals for about the same money are not apples to apples. If they want to go there spec-wise and price-wise... I'll leave that up to you (the president/CEO) to calculate the value to the company, but I'm good either way. For some reason he decided not to.
- I don't know where things are today with Amazon and big places like that. One day a friend who sat in on a board meeting said to me afterwards, I don't know why you do what you do, but if I could do what you do, I would never do what you do. That got me thinking. I didn't want the life that went with the job, resigned, went into business on my own, home-schooled kids, an now want to work with orphan kids.
- I would learn about the Boca angle a few years later. Things bothered me while they were interviewing me and trying to get me to work there. One of my friends who was there already hired in said to me, isn't this amazing for only 4 months old? I was thinking, a little too amazing. They showed me a data center with the telephone company having huge bundles of fiber coming in. I asked and they said because gather so much data that we sell to businesses that they decided to put one of their central offices in here. I was thinking why not use D&B and for $60 I can buy a lot from Microsoft. Then I saw 3 guys around a computer dumping data. I asked what that was about, and my perspective supervisor said, people attacking us to get our data. Then I find out I would be working one under the guy who invented the system the police use when they stop you. I knew one of the guys on the board and had done very well with a software company but figured he can't be making more than 1 million a year. Then they told me the work I would be doing and I thought, they don't need me for job like that. It would be like watching paint dry. Then my perspective supervisor said, We like guys with a military background and especially pilots. That had nothing to do with what they wanted to hire me for. This wasn't adding up. I didn't want it, and I didn't want to jerk a family around when I was making enough already. I would learn a few years later it was an intelligence front company, they were doing the hacking, phone call recording, and they also did drone strikes from down there. They got almost the entire crew of us that used to meet in Florida. The guy from Australia and the breath-taking girl from Germany learned they wanted the same things in life, got married, and contracted instead, so they could have their 11 kids at last count and also home school. The others didn't work there long, but they move like a ball team, and now the guy on the board that didn't make sense earlier, does. So when they say Snowden worked for a contractor my thoughts are, I wonder if he knew what he was getting into, and I know who has the deep pockets that can spin up a large contractor on prime real estate in 4 months, his name is Uncle Sam. LOL!
 
Oh wow, you have been places. Very interesting story, especially the last part. I think you could write a book over what you have gone trhough in your life.
When reading all this, I perfectly understand why you rather want to work with children and now orphans. And for the money, if you make enough to your liking it's good. It doens't always need to be more more more. When I came to local government (Provincial) it was firstly to help changing the complete system from Vax/VMS to Windows NT. As helpdesk, so we installed and connected the computers in the rooms etc. which was nice.
Then I went working there because they needed one more, which was great. I've been a couple of years there and due to good work within 2 years I was at the top of my salary group. Which is not as high as you can make, but I never mind.
I was happy with that salary and good have a good live for my family and me. But I had a collegue who always wanted more, more more, kept being annoying the boss with it, while in government here, the pay groups don't change. If your kind of work is in paygroup 7, you never will get to paygroup 8, done. So why all the wining?
Anyway, once NT was installed we had a helpdesk system running on MS Access. Which is why I asked if the MS Access database was the same as MSSQL but you forgot to answer that one. But that's no problem, I got a better story instead.
Anyway, odd issues starting to happen since we had a whole bunch of records in there. And then the decision was made to use Oracle. They had thought about things but I don't know the exact reason why they did not choose for MSSQL.
Maybe because they could use Oracle also for other things in the building, I don't know. We used big Compaq servers for all IT stuff. And I've seen what Vax/VMS used. And we started with 13 severs, ended up with 28 servers for things to work a bit on speed too. They never had needed that many for Vax/VMS which was a quite nice system, but getting too old.

Unfortunately I had to leave for health reasons and several years later started my little hostingn company, but I had an interesting time there.
In the Netherlands you have lots of sysadmins running around, they got their MSCE and think they are great.
But our sysadmin was a real one. We had a seperate piece of network in which he tried new things which would be installed. When implementing the TCP network, he send back the network engineer who was creating the network back to his place 3 times, because he found failures. And he was a sysadmin, not even a network engineer LoL.
He was a guy who investigated a new piece of software and could tell you if it could work together on .dll level with other applications present.
I've seen very little sysadmins being able to do and know such things, he was a bit of exceptional, at least for most of the people here calling themselves sysadmins while they just had MCSE and minor NT experience.
However, I learned a lot from the way he thought and his idea's about prevent issues on the systems present. I had a great time.

Totally different story as yours, which is way interesting, but I'm not that educated as you. For me, this already was great.
 
>I asked if the MS Access database was the same as MSSQL<
They are not the same. Microsoft's experience trying to come up with a good database was a sorry one. I bought the first version of Access when it was sold separately and it was ridiculous, but bear in mind that I had written my own DBMS by that time because I had to. Then they said they fixed all of the problems and I spent another $129.00 and it was junk. Back then it was referred to by all as "Microsoft Abscess". Then Microsoft decided to spend a ton of money and stole key architects of every major database out there and created their own brain trust. Unbelievably even after years, nothing came of it. They bought the rights to SQL Server. SQL Server is a Sybase Enterprise RDBMS. The stipulation was that they could only market it for Windows, and at that time UNIX ran anything big. That is the origin of the term, MSSQL Server. People like to think that Microsoft started with an old version and took it from there. That is not true. The adding of types and changes were lock-step for a long time. I bought Joe Celko's books at that time as he is one of the architects of SQL. He pretty much didn't respond to anybody on CompuServe, but he did me for some reason. He was a member of a private forum and gave me access where I simply eavesdropped. It was a war zone of the top guys from Oracle, Sybase, Informix, Ingress, etc. Afterward I would express my opinions with him and ask questions about parts of the conversations that I didn't understand. For some reason he liked to teach me. Before corresponding with Joe, I had written my own RDBMS and utilities. I hated SQL Server and of course MSSQL with it because it had so few types and felt boy those guys are stupid, and it wasn't as fast as what I had made and some Sybase's smaller product which they bought. I surfaced that in a conversation with Joe one day after another war on CompuServe. His reply was, "You live in a different world than they do. To you it makes perfect sense. The problem for them is parallelism. What you propose is not simple to implement in their environment." I learned I wasn't so smart after all. LOL! I hired a guy who had previously set up Christian radio stations in the Caribbean who had a saying, "You don't know what you don't know." Still, MSSQL was slow and infuriating. FoxPro was good a one thing, and that was finding things fast in a normalized database. Other than that, while popular, was horrendous on a network and the language a data was a piggy-backing of DBase's reputation. Microsoft bought FoxPro for a ghastly sum, which in my view was insanity, and it should be in the scrap heap. The guy I referenced earlier from Australia liked MSSQL and he wrote the driver for a language I was involved with. People abused him terribly and their logic for viewing him as stubborn and stupid could make sense on the surface. The owner of his company could talk to him, but he would decide if and how to implement requests. One day when we were meeting in Florida he was by himself as was often the case and I went there to talk to him. I was surprised to learn MSSQL was his favorite database, and since I knew some of its nuances, it became apparent what was driving his decisions. I decided I would play with it, and he would answer my E-mails when I had questions about the driver and parameters. What I learned was Microsoft had incorporated the ability from FoxPro to find things fast in a normalized database when the ORDERBY spans tables. That is HUGE and where it could destroy Oracle. Moreover, it had an enterprise foundation for parallelism. MSSQL, and I was not Microsoft fan boy, became what other databases had to measure up to. With the log file, I could write programs that could roll backwards and forward in time to see where the company was at any particular point in time. It was rock solid for reliability even though it was infuriating on data and index types, which by now had been tempered by Joe Celko's admonishion. Of course that put me in somewhat the same position of the guy from Australia but when they dissed me, I called them out publicly to defend their position in front of the group, which I mentioned earlier. As far as Access is concerned, Microsoft took a of abuse over it, which amounted to unpaid consulting, to where Access/JET database slowly became a highly capable and type-rich database. Exchange Server is an enterprise mail system. It is capable, fast, and reliable. The data store was Access/JET all the way through at least Exchange 2007, and you know what that would grow to and carry with it variable length BLOBs for large binary attachments, and then remain robust and fast too yet. One thing that helps is when it is in this role, it is single user because people's requests are to the server, and there are no unexpected reboots, and Access/JET had been pretty much been through trial-by-fire. On the desktop, things can to wrong with big files. I don't use it for programs I write, but I do have respect for it.

If I wrote a book as you suggest, it wouldn't be anything like Jack Welch and GE and end up in the business or motivation section. You would find my book in the comedy section and you would just laugh and shake your head. That's not false modesty, that is fact. Example: I grew up getting car sick, sea sick, and found out later because nobody in our family flew, airsick. In the 9th grade my friend Richard joined the Civil Air Patrol and said when gets to be 18 he will get a ride in a jet. I told him he was crazy. Bad move. I took a test and said what I wanted. They said they were getting me airline tickets and I said no, I'll buy them myself and go by train. They wouldn't let me and I puked on the way to training. I learned later I didn't get what I requested but rather aircraft mechanic. I told my dad and wanted to flee the country. My dad said it might not be so bad if you don't have to fly in them. I took to it like a duck to water. For some reason they liked me and I became a supervisor in a couple years. One day someone said they put you on flight status. I asked what does that mean. He said, just more money. That isn't what they had in mind. I was sick all the time and they didn't take me off flight status. The pilots came up with this novel idea that if I flew the aircraft I wouldn't get sick, and they would tell me where to fly and sometimes they would take pictures of property or circle for their kids. It extended my time by about 50%. One day I was recovering and sitting on a power pole they hadn't set yet and a pilot sat down next to me and said, I used to be just like you. It took learning to fly to get over it. I went to the airport the next day and got terrified in a little Cessna 150 with an instructor. A few days later a guy said to me, I'm selling my share in an airplane, and they need someone for maintenance so it comes with some free flight time every month. The club has 10 guys in it and the cost per hour was less than the 150. The flight instructor looked at it and said, "Nice airplane". I hated flying and for some reason bought the share. The thing needed a ton of work. I asked for a meeting to talk about and told them I was living at the airport. They asked me what I wanted. I told them 6 hours a month wet and when I get it under control we will cut it back to 2. They said we love what we see, but you need to take the 6 hours before the end of each month. Well now I needed to fly the thing >while in government here, the pay groups don't change. If your kind of work is in pay group 7< This is why I went to the academy and I loved to learn. When I graduated, a major asked me what I wanted to do. I jokingly said, flight school, knowing the guard hadn't been funded for that since the Korean war. They assigned me to communications where they had a morale problem and put the right people in charge. One was a supervisor at the phone company, another spent 20 years on the DEW line, and another fixed electronics. They they had me write the communications roll-out for their headquarters. Then they had an odd situation where they didn't have someone to fill in for a commander and I loved it and it was supposed to be at least a captain. Then the guard got their first "fright school" slot since the Korean war, and they signed a waiver to send me. There were better people than me available. What happened only got crazier in flight school. The Shah of Iran's son was even in my class. After all of this, I'm still afraid of heights except in an aircraft because the seat is only a few inches from the floor, and I can still get sea sick. Journeyman Die Maker, QA on flight controls for F-16, F-18, and Harrier, designing electronics,, automating two die shops, and two Tier-1 automotive suppliers writing ERP and RDBMS when nothing good existed because I had to, is all just as nuts. I didn't meet the minimum requirements for hardly anything I've done. 1 Corinthians 1:26 says, "For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:” Take my word for it, I'm not one of the few, and I have the report cards from grade school and high school to prove it. Ephesians 3:20 “Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us,” I was crushed when I was 16 and lost my dream job. I worked at a run down grocery store where I wanted to become their maintenance man like my friend's dad. This is not how I expected life to unfold where I would be praying and terrified half the time, and people befriending me who shouldn't have given me the time of day. My best explanation is God smote the people around me with the spirit of insanity who for some crazy reason thought I could help them when I had no idea what they were talking about, and didn't know enough to know it was impossible, and then impossible happened. There is so much to say how this played out with my kids but my guess is this can happen to anyone.
PS: Our family is originally from the Netherlands as well and an aunt has our family back to the 1500s before which they don't have written records. Being EuroNato, I went to school with Dutch, German, Iranians, Thais, etc. Did you know that we are trained by civilians and have been since almost ever? Training organizations bid on the training AND the maintenance and repairs of the aircraft. The military evaluates you with check rides along the way to determine if you pass or fail, which impacts the training organization as well.
 
IT_Architect said:
You would find my book in the comedy section and you would just laugh and shake your head.
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I don't think so. If what you say is correct indeed it might be humorous, but also interesting and informational. I don't need or read business motivation books. But I do read interesting books, experiences and technical innovations people experienced and especially if they are also humoristic because otherwise it would get too dull.

IT_Architect said:
This is why I went to the academy and I loved to learn.
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For me I was there after I graduated. I didn't do university. But even if I would have had a higher degree, it doesn't matter. The payment group is the group you work in as job. So to get in a higher payment group, you have to do other work, become application manager or network or system admin or policy manager. The only thing I was interested in was network manager and I started working (and learning) for that (myself and with help of the network engineer, so not in classes). However.... then I had to leave for my health.
I always wanted to do a computer study but was not allowed by my mother (single parent, devorced when I was 12) and in that time, there weren't really IT educations here in the Netherlands. The VS was way ahead of Europe.
The internet started here in 1995 and that people were really going to start with PC's (even company's) was starting around 1991/1992. Then also the IT educations start to become booming here.
I was 29 then, long past the school age and married and we had our first child already. Had to start earning to get them a living.
But I learned a lot myself via my BBS and later the MS and Linux servers I installed and ran at home. It was a great time, wouldn't have missed it for the world.
However, as said I had to make money and in those years I was driving travel busses. Inside Netherlands or running up and down to Spain twice a week. Was fun too.
I had an education and degree as graphic engineer and worked from my 15th to my 22nd or 23rd at a printing office as ... I don't know the English word for it. We typed text in a computer from Compugraphic, in which way we created birthday and honeymoon cards, but also magazines and stuff. From what we printed, the other side of the company made offset printing plates.
I've been doing that for 7 years, but I also wanted to start in the grocery department before that, odd but true.
After that I worked at a Phone company (Vodafone, then called Libertel in our country) and travel busses and government as last one.

I never have been in the military, my birth year was drawn not to serve and I was rejected anyway for my eyes. I'm also afraid of heights by the way. Not from the beginning. In my early years I scared my parents crawling up about everything.
But somewhere suddenly when I was 16 of 17 I became afraid of heights and it never went away again, I never have flown in an aircraft either.
 
Now I need to get Linux working for me. I posted in troubleshooting my issues with FTPS and I also have firewall issues. I'm getting unimpressed. I wouldn't know how to go about hanging FreeBSD but I have Linux freezing so much it makes Windows 3.0 look bulletproof.
 
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PS: >That might be because I'm not native English. I don't know what gr&d means.<
gr&d is online parlance for the English words "grinning, running, and ducking"
E.G. It has the concept of you saying, "Oh, get out of here" and throwing things at me for mentioning it.
So in this particular case it was me responding with a benchmark from a time when the Linux kernel version was 2.2 to support my unsupportable position with some humor, and you responding with "Oh get out of here" and throwing things at me for using it.

The only thing Microsoft set the table with is, if they aren't going to run a GUI than neither will we, otherwise they need to run a GUI also (which would be a complete disaster for ?NIX)
 
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IT_Architect said:
but I have Linux freezing so much
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Is that with or without the GUI? Or with specific use or throughput?

I have seen your post about FTPS but I presume you followed the instructions and I never used it so couldn't be of help, but there are others using it so I hope they can help you with that.
I don't know if FreeBSD will be a good choice since DA stops support for it. Unless you don't need DA anymore, but then probably @bdacus01 or some others can comment about FreeBSD as they used it for some time.

Thank you for explaining the meaning of gr&d to me.
 
gr&d was helpful, indeed :) linux way for simple users? alma or ubuntu? .. btw .. from what a GUI are you talking about? I dont get it, which GUI?
 
IT_Architect said:
I'm curious if anyone has ever tried using the Linux GUI with DirectAdmin?
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I dont have Physical Access to my servers...

I have used Gnome, KDE, MATE and others. I currently have KDE5 running on m FreeBSD workstation.

I have in the past put Xfce on a linux server box I had access to..about 14 moons ago.
 
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