IMAP Trouble

Oraco

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I am new to Linux.....

Now the server that I am on shows as IMAP being installed, however one of our clients can't get it to work. Now I can only guess that it is because he is trying to use a different method, but then how do I tell what IMAP is installed???

I have ssh and checked the /user/sbin/imapd which returns IMAP4rev1 2003.339 is that the version.
 
Is your client trying to login with his main username (the one you created for him when you created the account), or to an added email username?

If the former, then his login should be:

username

If the latter, then his login should be:

[email protected]

but with his entire email address instead of [email protected].

Jeff
 
jlasman

I will pass that on to the client, however how do you tell what version of IMAP is installed. And if we wanted to install a difference version how do we do this, or do all IMAP work the same.
 
[jeff@of1 jeff]$ telnet da1.ns-one.net 143
Trying 65.58.240.229...
Connected to da1.ns-one.net.
Escape character is '^]'.
* OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4REV1 LOGIN-REFERRALS STARTTLS AUTH=LOGIN] da1.ns-one.net IMAP4rev1 2003.339 at Sun, 7 Nov 2004 09:39:05 -0800 (PST)

Jeff
 
Lost me

Sorry you totally loss me there, will keep working on it. Thanks for your help. I will buy a linux book I think - lol I really want to get to know this system inside out. Any help is welcomed.
 
The IMap server is identifying itself thus:

IMAP4rev1 2003.339

Jeff
 
Excellent

Thanks for that, sorry I am still learning how ever appreciate your help. The client is trying to get some php commands to work with IMAP with no luck. We have been trying to help me but because we are unfamilar with IMAP have struggled getting his script to work.:)
 
Why use IMAP

Now here is a silly question, I don't actually know much about IMAP but was wondering why use it. What are the benefits.

:confused:
 
Re: Why use IMAP

Oraco said:
Now here is a silly question, I don't actually know much about IMAP but was wondering why use it. What are the benefits.

:confused:
IMAP is useful, when you want to access your email from multiple computers. The actual email messages are on the server and not stored on the client.

POP3 on the other hand downloads the email from the server and stores the message locally in a client-specific format. So, if you want to read the email on another computer, you need to find a way to send the email from one client to another. POP3 does have some ability to keep messages on the server, but it is not as seamless as IMAP.

As to your other question about php commands for IMAP, if you mean the imap_* type commands, then you will need to recompile php with imap support. Do a search for imap and php on this forum and you will see how to do that.
 
Simple answer is that most of us prefer SquirrelMail to UebiMiau, and SquirrelMail requires IMAP.

IMAP is a standardized method of keeping emil on your server so your clients, if they have properly set up IMAP for their own email programs, can maintain their email from multiple locations.

Jeff
 
Does DA really support IMAP?

I thought DA didn't really support IMAP.

I've been trying to use IMAP for some time, but when I check my email on one computer (using IMAP), the emails are still not marked as 'Read' by the server. When I'm then checking on another client afterwords, I still have to mark the emails I've already read, as 'Read'. Then I go to Squirrelmail, and still, the messages I've read are not marked correctly.

If I then attempt to download the messages in a POP3 client, email that's already been downloaded by my POP3 client gets downloaded again - more specifically, email that is in between the dates that I have browsed using IMAP, but not only email that I have opened in IMAP, but totally random email.

Would compiling PHP with IMAP solve this problem?

Because of the trouble above, I concluded that even though DA has an IMAP deamon, it doesn't actually support true IMAP.
 
I have been using IMAP on my DA server for quite some time, and have never seen that problem before. I am using two different IMAP clients (Mozilla and Illoha) and any message marked read in one client is marked in the other.

Compiling php with IMAP won't help, that only allows you to use the imap_* calls within php, and most of the web clients use their own IMAP libraries.
 
torp,

DA doesn't do anything special to support IMAP.

The folk at DA have installed UW IMAP (The University of Washington IMAP Daemon) as part of the core DA system. Other programs use that daemon.

Since most of us use IMAP strictly to support Squirrelmail, you might want to read what the folk who wrote Squirrelmail say about UW IMAP here. Many email clients don't fully support IMAP properly.

Jeff
 
It didn't annoy me too much with Squirrelmail - I just assumed it was Squirrel's problem.

But now that I've actually started to use IMAP on different machines, I have a problem. From previous experience Thunderbird (which I'm using on a couple of computers) sorts this out well. However, it doesn't with the DA IMAP.

I have also tried this with Outlook 2003 and Gnome Evolution - same problem.

Anyone know a fix for Thunderbird/Outlook/Evolution? The Squirrel solution is less urgent.

What's the difference between Toml's DA box and mine? My DA was installed in early July.

Could I maybe use another IMAP deamon?
 
I am using the DA version of the UW IMAP server. Any other server, and it won't work right with virtual directories. The Thunderbird IMAP client is the same one as Mozilla, which I use all over the place. If you try to use POP3 with the same account, I can see that messing things up, since the messages will be marked differently. I can't say for sure if that is the problem, since I use one or the other, but not both.
 
As far as I can see, the messages don't get touched by Thunderbird at all, only downloaded.

And yes, I actually use a mix of POP and IMAP - I have one workstation with POP3, and on others (including webmail) I'm using IMAP.

But even when I'm using IMAP exclusively, as in when I download on Thunderbird using IMAP, the messages that I've downloaded with IMAP don't get marked as 'Read' by Squirrel - no POP intervention in between. Could the Squirrel solution to IMAP/UW solve this?

And why do I get a random number of emails sent to my POP3 account, after checking email - either through an IMAP client or through Squirrel? This seems like a bug to me, because I've been using IMAP4 and POP3 interchangibly on other mailservers before, without this happening.
 
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