Moving e-mail account to an user.

[ipnos]

I am admin fo DA (but not a root). I have an user and a main domain (for example: hhhhh.eu) and mail domain (mail.hhhhh.eu) and I want to establish e-mail account [email protected] and move it to this user. I can not do it.
And I can't do it after login as John (because he is not the owner of mail.hhhhh.eu domain) so using this account is impossible to create e-mail account in mail.hhhhh.eu domain...

I can create new e-mail account [email protected], but user John will not see this account in his DA panel.

 

[Richard G]

(because he is not the owner of mail.hhhhh.eu domain)

If you want to create an email account, you must do that at the domain you want to created it for. I presume the owner over hhhhh.eu has given permission to create an email account for John.

If yes, then login as the user which owns hhhhh.eu.eu and create there the [email protected] not [email protected] becaue that is not really how it should be done. Unless you created a seperate subdomain as domain, which is best never done with mail.

After creation of [email protected] give him the login credentials and he should have no issues reaching his mail.
He also can see it in webmail and in a mail client, but it won't be possible to see it in his own account in DA, so for example he can change password for that mail account in there.

 

[ipnos]

The problem is not in creating e-mail account but moving this account to DA panel of John so he will see this account in his panel.

 

[Richard G]

I know, but why does he nee to see that account in his panel? You can't do anything with looking, you need to use it. It's not needed to see things to be able to use them.
It's just not like how things work in panels.

 

[ipnos]

When you have got 15 e-mail account you prefer to just click on one of them in your panel to login to webmail.
You may change a password and have got list of all your addresses in one place.

DirectAdmin is ill-designed. Its main hierarchy is based on domains instead of users. The users should be a core of hierarchy and they should be attached to a main working domain (e.g. main domain of VPS hosting). Domains and e-mails should be services on such account and user should see whole e-mail accounts and not only those of choosen domain.
In such system it will be easy to give an e-mail address for such user, because e-mail address is a service which can be switched from one user to another.
DirectAdmin (via webmail) does not allow to work with real two-directional e-mail aliases. There is only possibility to obtain e-mail sent to forwarded addresses but is not possible to send e-mails using such alias address as sender.

 

[factor]

The users should be a core of hierarchy

I think its an intresting concept which other panel does this?

 

[Richard G]

When you have got 15 e-mail account you prefer to just click on one of them in your panel to login to webmail.

When you have got 15 e-mail accounts it's rather odd to still make use of webmail instead of using an email client in such case.

DirectAdmin is ill-designed. Its main hierarchy is based on domains instead of users.

Wrong and wrong. It's not ill designed and no it's not based on domains it is based on users. As you should know 1 user can have multiple domains, so it's based on users which is quite normal for these kind of panels. Same for CP.
For what you want, it should be based on domains, which is rather ill designed. I don't even know a panel supporting that, very maybe Plesk.

The users should be a core of hierarchy

They are. And for that reason domains are attached to user accounts and not the other way around.

If it were domain based, yes then it would be easily possible what you want. But I don't know any panel providing something like that.
An email address has never been intended ans something to be switched from one to another user, it's connected to it's domain.
And it's very flexible to be used. Only thing not possible is placing some email address from one users domain, in another users account, never seen that before either.
Yeah I know, users want things easy as possible, but that is not always possible.

DirectAdmin (via webmail) does not allow to work with real two-directional e-mail aliases.

I'm not native English so I won't understand this part without example.
What I know is that user A has adomain.com and user b has bdomain.com then user b can give a @bdomain.com email address to user A. User A can send as [email protected] and receive same way via webmail, so bidirectional.
Only thing which can't happen, is that you place the [email protected] into the Directadmin panel login under email addresses.

I'm also curious as to in which panel something like that would be possible.

 

[ipnos]

When you have got 15 e-mail accounts it's rather odd to still make use of webmail instead of using an email client in such case.

Yes if the webmail is very poor mail client and operate only one email acount via IMAP...

Wrong and wrong. It's not ill designed and no it's not based on domains it is based on users. As you should know 1 user can have multiple domains, so it's based on users which is quite normal for these kind of panels. Same for CP.
For what you want, it should be based on domains, which is rather ill designed. I don't even know a panel supporting that, very maybe Plesk.

I see it in different way. I am admin and I have to choose domain to add e-mail accoount or forwarder.
In earlier panel (not popular) it was available to choose many domains to create e-mail addresses which were only something like forwarders and move everything to mailbox of the user.
DA is ill designed because (and it is strong fact): they creators did not designed any tool to bulk import of e-mail forwarders, domains etc.
There was a nightmare to add more than 500 e-mail forawrders and 400 domains.
I had to use external API tool to add domains, but it is not safe solution because I don't know if such tool add something to DA using password...

The tool to add forwarders from raw data do not accept bulk source e-mails (only target e-mails).

I'm not native English so I won't understand this part without example.
What I know is that user A has adomain.com and user b has bdomain.com then user b can give a @bdomain.com email address to user A. User A can send as [email protected] and receive same way via webmail, so bidirectional.
Only thing which can't happen, is that you place the [email protected] into the Directadmin panel login under email addresses.

I'm also curious as to in which panel something like that would be possible.

No, no I have written about 2-directional e-mail alias for one user who want to use different addreses (for example in small firm one person may be accountant, CEO and sale manager and want use addreses: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] etc.)
He should not only receive all e-mailes sent to above addresses but should have got easy way to send e-mail using different identity. It is possible to add identity but in the source of email there will be always original e-mail address (for example: [email protected]).

 

[hmaddy]

You can use imap services to move it.

 

[Richard G]

is very poor mail client

They can always use Thunderbird which is totally free and can easily handle that many accounts.

they creators did not designed any tool to bulk import of e-mail forwarders, domains etc.

That has totally nothing to do with ill design. I don't know other panels which can do that. DA is just like other professional panels a hosting panel, not an email forwarder panel.

It is possible to add identity but in the source of email there will be always original e-mail address (for example: [email protected]).

Now you're only using @ABCfirm.com as domain, that is only 1 domain. So these are not different mail addresses from another domain.
So if he doesn't want [email protected] in the header, he needs to login as john.doe@ or accounting@ if he wants to send mail from that address.

Or like I said. Use a decent e-mail client. The free Mozilla Thunderbird would be the perfect solution for this and then he can send from any identity as that identity from the domains made in Directadmin.
That is what DA is for. Webmail is just an external extra service but not the core of a hosting panel.