yeah you are right about that. Probably still nice to have a separate proftpd on port 23. IMHO it is the best to keep sites separated though on separate users. But like you mentioned, it is still sometimes nice to be able to give sftp access to a restricted dir in stead of full shell acces. Thanks for your input guys.Imagine you've got 2+ sites under the same account and need to share a FTP access to only public_html of one of the sites. How would you go with standard SSH and SFTP over SSH? This is when SFTP in ProFTPd might help)