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Richard G
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LoL.
Try the same with cPanel. They also request legal proof. If you don't apply they just shut you down.
Looks you're violating license agreement by not doing bundle sales.
Try the same with cPanel. They also request legal proof. If you don't apply they just shut you down.
Looks you're violating license agreement by not doing bundle sales.
Richard G
Verified User
Yep. Next to that he can't even proof having a website which he sells vps/servers on with DA as he didn't answer that question either.
Which is a mandatory thing in the license agreement.
Which is a mandatory thing in the license agreement.
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We appreciate that the community has noticed a consistent red flag: all these types of complaints seem to come from unnamed providers.
If they were genuinely being impacted, they’d be putting their name and website out there to prove it. Getting people on their side would be priority number one, and it would be so easy to prove.
Complaining from the shadows raises more questions than it answers. If anything, it shows that we might of had a reasonable basis for asking questions in the first place.
Even more bizarre is that we did not close the door in this particular case -- we are simply waiting for some formal documentation.
If they were genuinely being impacted, they’d be putting their name and website out there to prove it. Getting people on their side would be priority number one, and it would be so easy to prove.
Complaining from the shadows raises more questions than it answers. If anything, it shows that we might of had a reasonable basis for asking questions in the first place.
Even more bizarre is that we did not close the door in this particular case -- we are simply waiting for some formal documentation.
twhiting9275
Verified User
Well, that didn't exactly go as you expected!
I find it kind of funny that even on reddit, the crowd pretty much called out the user's BS. That's a rarity
I find it kind of funny that even on reddit, the crowd pretty much called out the user's BS. That's a rarity
Sure, you were happy to take your millions of dollars of profits years ago from anyone that gave you those hundred dollar bills at a time, and now requiring people to get notarized by embassies to now use the service they paid for. I sure love how you like to play victim even though you are the one that is stealing. How about you program MariaDB into the legacy codebase, and actually provide the legal obligation you agreed to when you sold the lifetime product? Or are you too busy sipping matinees on your yacht that was paid for with those lifetime licenses?
Richard G
Verified User
Which all did profit enormously from those major cheap internal licenses and also external licenses earned their money back.
Lifetime was never ever an "as long as you live" term, it's not a legal term and next to that, it does not exist in software world. Others just declare lifetime licenses "end of life". DA was so nice to fase it out so we can still use them for the time being.
Get a lifetime license from similar company's and see what you have to pay at a yearly base to keep them going. And you can always make use of the 15/month offer, at least as long as that still exists.
Because the almost only people blaiming DA are people who can't provide any proof they were entitled anyway to internal lifetime licenses anyway. And some legal from which most earned back their licenses cost multiple times.
For external license (if not bought 2nd hand for half the money) you paid ONCE 300 dollar and could use it at the very least for 6 years.
So where did DA make the millions? You know what developpers cost per year? Guess not.
You will find nothing like this anywhere in the softwareworld comparable.
Next to that, it's still lifetime compared to other "lifetime" licenses. You can keep using them with the old software.
You can't keep running a business for years on a 1 time income.
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You're right. By that definition, it wouldn't be a lifetime.
In the software industry, lifetime of any product/license is a timespan set by the developer, which is why terms like EOL exist. It would be highly unusual, even bizarre, to have software lifecycles tied to medical metrics (like biological longevity).
The best any software company can do is take your payment, return good value for the price, and retain some profit to keep itself afloat. When this is no longer possible, product tiers get dropped (EOL), regardless of billing method (in fact, many recurring-billed licenses are part of our legacy codebase).
The proper definition is:
Lifetime (of any license) = Until EOL
There is nothing unlawful or unethical about it -- this is true of every software that has ever existed. For those yelling "scam" -- keep in mind we have been developing these licenses for over 20 years with 250+ releases. We have shown exceptionally good faith but there is only so far you can drive on one tank of gas. We are showing further good faith by following a sunsetting process, which is a precursor to formal EOL: a slow wind-down rather than a harsh one where everything (including licensing/login) could stop working in a heartbeat.