vm-pop3d bugs?

We've been considering writing a conversion routine, but the lack of interest in our other commercial products has kept me from pursuing this with our programmer.

It costs a lot of money to create something like this, and so far it appears that what we think are important products people will be interested in, actually get very little interest when put up for sale.

So it's not something we're pursuing as rapidly as we otherwise might.

Jeff
 
you mean dovecot? this would defenitly be something I think I want from DA themselves and they did say they working on it which is good.
 
My understanding is that JBMC's interest in dovecot is because it can be left to use current mbox mailboxes while future domains could be set up to use Maildir mailboxes.

My interest is in an actual conversion routine.

Jeff
 
Well I would pay for it as you should be paid for it if you are spending time on it, but would be dissapointed that it isnt part of my DA licence cost's. That best describes my opinion.
 
You make a very interesting point.

However your point begs the question:

Why should DA be responsible for changing your mailboxes from mbox to Maildir?

Since their mail system works.

It would be a lot easier for me to say "DA should fix it", except that from DA's point of view, I don't see what's broken.

Perhaps you don't know the history.

DA was originally sold with only POP capability. POP capability was traditionally supplied using mbox format (files, not directories), and so that's what JBMC used.

I can't speak for the specific reason JBMC added IMAP, but I know it was right after I wrote them that I couldn't use DA for my clients unless they could support IMAP, because the Cobalt RaQs my clients were currently on allowed IMAP and many of my clients were already using it.

At that point the easiest way to support IMAP was to use a server that supported mbox, and that's what they added.

It worked for me. It still works for me.

Perhaps because we understand the difference between email as provided by a hosting company and email as provided by a specialty email provider, and we offer both.

Note that Maildir isn't a total panacea and there are plenty of people it won't work for:

Maildir has each email in a separate file. Large drives have a large minimum file allocation and very small emails can rapidly use a lot of space. And each file uses at least one inode; at some point any unix/linux system will run out of inodes. Using thousands of inodes for a mailbox is not necessarily a good use of resources.

Personally I can see where many of our servers will stay on mbox, while some might be moved to Maildir.

Jeff
 
Out of Plesk, Esim or any of the other web GUI's do any of them still use mbox format? Do any of them run into performance issues with one versus the other?

I found this Mbox to Maildir utillity that might be useful:

http://batleth.sapienti-sat.org/projects/mb2md/

We have about 1000 mail accounts on our Directadmin box and are running into many complaints that checking email is very slow. Not many complaints about sending that I know of yet. We are running Spamd and ClamAV as well.

I just ordered a P4 3.4Ghz CPU with 800Mhz bus which I am replacing the 2.4Ghz CPU with. Fastest this motherboard supports. Perhaps it will help. Already have 2Gbyte of DDR. I also want to update the bios on the motherboard. Perhaps newer bios will have better SATA performance on this Supermicro motherboard.

Matthew
 
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Good question.

Plesk and H-Sphere use qmail, and use Maildir. Always have, to the best of my knowledge.

I'm not sure what Ensim or CPanel use.

CPanel includes a script to convert mbox to Maildir; perhaps they used to use mbox and are now converting to Maildir; perhaps it's just an option. I don't know.

Perhaps you could ask their sales teams.

Jeff
 
the thing is it doesnt always work especially under high email numbers hence the complaints that popup every now and then.

Directadmin need to adapt to the market, it is alright saying they only provided so and so at one time but if they fall short people will just go elsewhere.
 
the thing is it doesnt always work especially under high email numbers hence the complaints that popup every now and then.
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Our DA box is mainly used for email. There were no warnings in the docs about not being able to support heavy email use. With the exception of the (sluggish)email issue we have been quite happy with DA though. There support has been very good as well and I understand this is not an easy thing to fix/change. But it must be fixed else we must find another product. Thats what my custommers tell me too... ;<(

Matt
 
DirectAdmin is a great general purpose control panel.

If you're doing just email, you might want to look at the Vexim open source project.

Jeff
 
f you're doing just email, you might want to look at the Vexim open source project.
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Project looks interesting. But were not doing just email. My web hosting clients are also complaining of the slow email especially webmail.

Matthew
 
Don't forget the changes you're going to have to make to exim.conf, and that this will leave you with a custom exim.conf file you'll have to keep updated manually.

Jeff
 
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