Creating a reseller with his own nameservers

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Hi,

I hope someone can help + I DID use the search function, nothing found...

I got my own server. So i have full access to it.

I have a reseller who ordered two IP adresses so he can make his own nameservers. So I ordered the two IP adresses a couple of days ago and I received them today.

I added them to DirectAdmin and when visiting them I see a "Apache is functioning correctly". Meaning, the IPs are set up correctly.

But now, how do I make the private nameservers for my reseller client?

This is what I did:
I first assigned the IP adresses to the reseller. Then I logged in as the Reseller and went to the Nameservers page and I checked the boxes of those two IP addresses and I clicked "Create nameservers".

Still, the nameservers don't work. I check them using this website for .NL (netherlands) domains: http://www.sidn.nl/ace.php/c,728,5886,,,,Nameserver_check.html

So i tried to create ns1.XXX.nl and ns2.XXX.nl. When I try to point XXX.nl to those nameservers I get this error:
PHP: 
Errors=2, Warnings=0, Informational=0 

** Summary: REJECTED **********.nl.

Some problems need to get fixed:
 - Some of your name servers cannot be used (are broken).

** Full check report:

* primary name server "ns1.**********.nl." [BROKEN]
  Broken: in-zone name server "ns1.**********.nl." requires explicit IP-address.
    The name server you specified is not yet known, because it is in-zone.
    A glue record is required: specify the IP-address for this name server
    explictly.

* secondary name server "ns2.**********.nl." [BROKEN]
  Broken: in-zone name server "ns2.**********.nl." requires explicit IP-address.
    The name server you specified is not yet known, because it is in-zone.
    A glue record is required: specify the IP-address for this name server
    explictly.
When I try to point a domain BBB.nl to ns1.XXX.nl and ns2.XXX.nl I get:
PHP: 
Errors=2, Warnings=0, Informational=0 

** Summary: REJECTED BBB.nl.

Some problems need to get fixed:
 - Some of your name servers cannot be used (are broken).

** Full check report:

* primary name server "ns1.XXX.nl." [BROKEN]
  Broken: name server "ns1.XXX.nl." does not resolve.
    The name server is not (or not yet) known by the global DNS system.
    Check the spelling of the name, or wait a while until the name is
    known.

* secondary name server "ns2.XXX.nl." [BROKEN]
  Broken: name server "ns2.XXX.nl." does not resolve.
    The name server is not (or not yet) known by the global DNS system.
    Check the spelling of the name, or wait a while until the name is
    known.

The DNS management page of XXX.nl:
http://www.directadmin.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=781&stc=1&d=1233156300

I would really appreciate some help, I've been working this the whole day and I just cant figure it out. Googled everywhere...

Thanks...
 

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Register the name servers at your domain registrar.
 
Thanks for your reply! I appreciate it very much!

Should I just add

PHP: 
ns1.XXX.nl. -> A -> 1.2.3.4

Or?
 
but before you can attach a domain name to a name server at the registar level and in his case its .NL it does a name server check but its not rep

in other words:

if an ns1.xxx.nl has an ip adress that resolves on the internet then it would work.

so yes create the A record ns1 and ns2 pointing to both seperate adresses
but also make sure your namesever responds.
try an nslookup on the ip and name and on both ns servers so that they both reply to the domain you try to register with SIDN

small note here. SIDN requires to have seperate ip adresses for a reason. if they are both on the same host / network then if somethig is wrong there then your domains would not resolve again. a secondary dns on another datacenter is adviced.

Soul
 
If you do not create the actual nameserver records then they will not be in the root nameservers. You cannot just create A records. You have to create actual nameserver records at the registrar. Some call them hosts records. This is not done from your normal dns settings.
 
Floyd got it right.

You have to create the name servers at your registrar so that the internet at large knows of them.

If this still doesn't make sense, what is the URL of the domain's registrar and I will see if I can find a help document on their site that explains what you need to do in their system.
 
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Its all OK now! I just added the A records at the registrar and everythings working. Stupid SIDN (.nl domain registrar), its a pain in the ass.

Thanks all for the help. I really appreciate it. :)
 
Reshad said:
Its all OK now! I just added the A records at the registrar and everythings working. Stupid SIDN (.nl domain registrar), its a pain in the ass.

Thanks all for the help. I really appreciate it. :)
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I really don't think only adding A records is going to do it. I would like to know what the nameservers are and what domain points to them so we can check it.
 
Floyd, the nameservers need to be registered with the registrar AND in A records in the relevant zone.

The problem is that for .nl and for some other top-level country-code domains, the nameservers have to be working for the domain before they'll let you register them.

Jeff
 
Ok, sometimes it works, sometimes it tells me "Nameservers do not know of domain ***.nl" and I just try again and it works then.

My question to you is, how do I create the actual nameservers at the registrar? The A records is not enough? What should I then create?

I right now have this:
ns1.***.nl -> A -> IP.ADD.RESS

I can add these other records:
AAAA
MC
CNAME
TXT

Which one should i use so I can registrer the actual nameservers like you said?
 
First you create A records on a working nameserver for the reseller nameserver; the nameserver must work; the .nl registry will check.

Then you register the nameserver(s) at your registrar. How you do that differs from registrar to registrar, you may want to ask your registrar technical support.

Jeff
 
Ok, so adding the A records at the DNS manager of DirectAdmin and in the DNS manager of the registrar is enough?

I do not need to add ANY other records for the nameservers to work? (note: i am not talking about pointing the domain to a webhost, I am talking about having ns1.domain.nl and ns2.domain.nl, I hope you understand what I am saying)
 
I don't understand what a DNS manager is. If you don't know how to register a nameserver at the registrar where your domain (you called them ns1.domain.nl and ns2.domain.nl) is registered, you need to ask the registrar.

Jeff
 
Is registering the nameservers the same as changing the nameservers of a domain to point a domain to a server?
 
No. No. No. No.

I would have just said No just once but the forum software told me the post was too short :).

Jeff
 
Alright, then that means I have not done that yet. I understand it is not possible to register the nameservers by adding DNS records, the only way is to contact the registrar?
 
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

I would have just said Yes just once but the forum software told me the post was too short :).

Jeff
 
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