R.I.P. CentOS ?

[MaXi32]

Right but why choose one big for profit company over another. I did read their pitch I like some of the features. Seems simple to convert.

I think FreeBSD or Debian is a better choice. If you want to stay away from big corp influence. The only issue with FreeBSD is not many use it here with DA. So DA is thinking of dropping support for it. Now maybe they will change their mind.

What will be interesting is what will cPanel and others do. Since they only support RH or centos. I am so glad DA did not switch to just one OS.

This could lead to another influx of Panel refugees to DA....

CentOS 8 has abruptly been shifted to EOL in 2021. Now what?

To start with, I expect that the cPanel folks will not have an immediate, or even within the month, answer -- I imagine you are as caught off-guard as we are -- and part of my motivation to post is warning other cPanel users of this occurrence. Now that CentOS has focused on Stream and revised...

forums.cpanel.net

I'm also glad that DA supports more than 1 OS.

CentOS 8 End-of-Life Announcement | cPanel

The CentOS Project has announced several significant changes to its roadmap that may affect infrastructure and deployment plans for online businesses, data centers, and end users. These changes announced by CentOS include: Accelerated end-of-life for CentOS 8; no further operating system updates...

blog.cpanel.com

They have made an official announcement they will focus on Ubuntu LTS:

I think that two are my choices now :
1. Freebsd
2. rockylinux.org

What about Debian ? DA supports Debian and even the alpha Debian 11 from the system requirement page. I'm moving to Debian now (pray for my safety from mystery bug).

 

[k1l0b1t]

What about Debian ? DA supports Debian and even the alpha Debian 11 from the system requirement page. I'm moving to Debian now (pray for my safety from mystery bug).

I'd move to debian for new installs too, Hope it goes well for you maxi32

 

[factor]

I think that two are my choices now :
1. Freebsd
2. rockylinux.org

See this post about FreeBSD

R.I.P. CentOS ?

It seems he editted the post on wht. But it's now on the blog: https://blog.cloudlinux.com/announcing-open-sourced-community-driven-rhel-fork-by-cloudlinux Edit: Actually a mod had edited his post.

forum.directadmin.com

 

[factor]

CentOS 8 has abruptly been shifted to EOL in 2021. Now what?

To start with, I expect that the cPanel folks will not have an immediate, or even within the month, answer -- I imagine you are as caught off-guard as we are -- and part of my motivation to post is warning other cPanel users of this occurrence. Now that CentOS has focused on Stream and revised...

forums.cpanel.net

I'm also glad that DA supports more than 1 OS.

CentOS 8 End-of-Life Announcement | cPanel

The CentOS Project has announced several significant changes to its roadmap that may affect infrastructure and deployment plans for online businesses, data centers, and end users. These changes announced by CentOS include: Accelerated end-of-life for CentOS 8; no further operating system updates...

blog.cpanel.com

They have made an official announcement they will focus on Ubuntu LTS:


What about Debian ? DA supports Debian and even the alpha Debian 11 from the system requirement page. I'm moving to Debian now (pray for my safety from mystery bug).

Debian 10 runs well. I have been running it for 3 months. No issues. Standard build.

 

[ikkeben]

This link is

CentOS 8 End-of-Life Announcement​

CentOS 8 End-of-Life Announcement | cPanel

The CentOS Project has announced several significant changes to its roadmap that may affect infrastructure and deployment plans for online businesses, data centers, and end users. These changes announced by CentOS include: Accelerated end-of-life for CentOS 8; no further operating system updates...

blog.cpanel.com

blog cpanel but if one find the from centos themselves please.

While official announcements makes more sense for me.

So this one !

CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream – Blog.CentOS.org

blog.centos.org

The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream, and over the next year we’ll be shifting focus from CentOS Linux, the rebuild of Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL), to CentOS Stream, which tracks just ahead of a current RHEL release. CentOS Linux 8, as a rebuild of RHEL 8, will end at the end of 2021. CentOS Stream continues after that date, serving as the upstream (development) branch of Red Hat Enterprise Linux

Red Hat Enterprise Linux Life Cycle - Red Hat Customer Portal

Access Red Hat’s knowledge, guidance, and support through your subscription.

access.redhat.com

 

[Arieh]

Some starting info on the CloudlLinux fork, now named Project Lenix

AlmaLinux OS - Forever-Free Enterprise-Grade Operating System

An Open Source, community owned and governed, forever-free enterprise Linux distribution.

projectlenix.org

Reddit - Dive into anything

www.reddit.com

 

[Nexxterra.com]

Corporations are by law beholden to their shareholders, NOT their customers, as such, this might very well be just one step towards monetizing a free product down the road. It of course will be cheaper than RHL, but almost anything is cheaper than RHL!

 

[dmacleo]

ug I saw this earlier. luckily my installs are just me messign around and no customers affected so I can switch around if needed

 

[sergiu]

CentOS Stream should have no issues with DA. Oracle Linux 8 should have no issues as well It's easy to convert CentOS8 to either of these. In addition to this - RHEL8 and CloudLinux8 are supported as well.

Hi
I use DA - centos 8 and i would like to upgrade to centos stream

Converting from CentOS Linux to CentOS Stream​

root@centos-linux# dnf install centos-release-stream

root@centos-linux# dnf swap centos-{linux,stream}-repos

root@centos-linux# dnf distro-sync

root@centos-stream# cat /etc/centos-release
CentOS Stream release 8

yum update

reboot


Has anyone tested this information?

Thank you

 

[ccto]

New Year, new Red Hat Enterprise Linux programs: Easier ways to access RHEL

Introducing new no-cost RHEL programs for small production deployments and enterprise development teams.

www.redhat.com

No-cost RHEL for small production workloads​

While CentOS Linux provided a no-cost Linux distribution, no-cost RHEL also exists today through the Red Hat Developer program. The program’s terms formerly limited its use to single-machine developers. We recognized this was a challenging limitation.

We’re addressing this by expanding the terms of the Red Hat Developer program so that the Individual Developer subscription for RHEL can be used in production for up to 16 systems. That’s exactly what it sounds like: for small production use cases, this is no-cost, self-supported RHEL.

 

[ikkeben]

New Year, new Red Hat Enterprise Linux programs: Easier ways to access RHEL

Introducing new no-cost RHEL programs for small production deployments and enterprise development teams.

www.redhat.com

We’re making CentOS Stream the collaboration hub for RHEL, with the landscape looking like this:

Fedora Linux is the place for major new operating system innovations, thoughts, and ideas - essentially, this is where the next major version of Red Hat Enterprise Linux is born.

CentOS Stream is the continuously delivered platform that becomes the next minor version of RHEL.

RHEL is the intelligent operating system for production workloads, used in nearly every industry in the world, from cloud-scale deployments in mission-critical data centers and localized server rooms to public clouds and out to far-flung edges of enterprise networks.

We aren’t done with this work. We want to hear from you, whether or not your needs fall into one of the use cases described here.
Please contact us at [email protected]. This email address goes directly to the team developing these programs. We’ve heard you -- and will continue to listen to your comments and suggestions.

New Year, new Red Hat Enterprise Linux programs: Easier ways to access RHEL

Introducing new no-cost RHEL programs for small production deployments and enterprise development teams.

www.redhat.com

 

[Richard G]

We’re addressing this by expanding the terms of the Red Hat Developer program so that the Individual Developer subscription for RHEL can be used in production for up to 16 systems. That’s exactly what it sounds like: for small production use cases, this is no-cost, self-supported RHEL.

Do I understand this correctly. Can hosting company's now use RHEL for free if they do not use it on more than 16 machines?

 

[ccto]

Need to think about those VPS/VM/dedicated server guest OS instance ...
Still need an OS... (vzlinux8 / AlmaLinux / CentOS 8 Stream)

 

[Richard G]

Oh I thought they ment main OS on a dedicated server that RHEL would be free. I'm not native English. Oke so they don't mean us.
Well then it will be Centos 8 stream or something else.

 

[ikkeben]

Do I understand this correctly. Can hosting company's now use RHEL for free if they do not use it on more than 16 machines?

If you read the 3 options they talk about.

I think they did had a kind of 'backfire" after deciding to go to centos stream only


Meaning losing lot of users / admin and technical guys, which also means les testing in real live and more risk missing some faults . bugs if installed base is a lot smaller.

Wen offering "developers"/ small production still complete stuff, the installed base shoudl be lot more also the testing in several combinations, while if smaller or developers doesn't have such option they go away but also then while testing is done on other OS the paying custommers for which developers ...

So losing in future more then "testers" live also custommers don't think anymore to switch from CENTOS to paid alsmost same OS RHEL, while their base OS is not anymore CENTOS.

Sorry hope you understand my points of view. Which are:
Customer base in future in danger, and less testing on faults and bugs..

 

[ikkeben]

For information here the CENTOS FORUM.

What do you think of the recent Red Hat announcement about CentOS Linux/Stream? - Page 3 - CentOS

 

[ccto]

i.e. we have some alternative at least:
RHEL (free for 16 installation), Oracle Linux , AlmaLinux (coming) , Rocky (coming), CentOS 8 Stream, CloudLinux (commercial).

Not sure how DirectAdmin intention.

 

[ikkeben]

i.e. we have some alternative at least:
RHEL (free for 16 installation), Oracle Linux , AlmaLinux (coming) , Rocky (coming), CentOS 8 Stream, CloudLinux (commercial).

Not sure how DirectAdmin intention.

I think al this should go in new SUB Forum CENTOS8 Alternativs / successors, with some sticky parts.

Please make a subforum and some stickey topics about CENTOS 8 Stream or other alternatives to the CENTOS8

For Forum ADMINS and or Moderators Please make a new and more sticky SUBforum and some sticky topics also Official DA parts for the EOL CENTOS8, CENTOS8 Stream , RHEL small , Almalinux or rocky linux as successors. For a good overview, and to protect forum from to many almost same topics and...

forum.directadmin.com

 

[Active8]

+1 to have an separate (sub)forum for this new "Centos replacements"

 

[jca]

It's still a little premature to see. We need to see if any of the forks decide to work together. It's never good when we have 4 things of the same flavor. One of them will eventually fold. I'm pretty sure hosting companies will just install RHEL and let you assign the license yourself to work around the 16 machines limit.