[RELEASE] Installatron (DirectAdmin auto script installer)

We're having an issue with 1.4.....

Install seems to go ok on 3 servers, but it stops running when you update packages, at various points in the update.

On one server, it gets to:

Refreshing b2evolution to build 2 -
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and stops

Another one will install 3 or 4... then stop.

And thats it - it just dies off.

Any ideas? I tried removing completely - removed fine, re-installed, still get the same error in the same spots on each box.
 
I replied to your post here.

Again, sorry for the delay. I had some surgery yesterday and have been out of things since then.

Cheers, Phi1. :)
 
Thanks Phi1 - hope things are getting back to normal with you.

Upped the timeout as far as 300 - still not installing everything :(

Guess I'll keep going.

Ok, went to 500... seemed to get everything except IPB 3... didn't think that was out of "beta"- but I guess I can check it out :)
 
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The package build numbers are actually internal numbers. We increment the build number one for each package release, so that the system realizes there is an update available.

For the next version, v1.5, I've implemented a solution to this package updating timeout problem. If you like, you should be able to lower your timeout back to around 120 once 1.5 is out.

Cheers, Phi1. :)
 
PLONE

Have you looked at plone yet? It's amazing but is built on Zope so it just might not work with iTron (yet ;) ) plone is very powerful and I think that some of this python stuff (like Mailman) would be a worthwhile venture in the future.

In your spare time :D

cheers,
BRandt
 
Once "Package Groups" are implemented, that will be the time to look at things like Python scripts, which not everyone may want to support.
 
maybe it has aldready been discusses here (didn't read the whole topic..), but isn't it possible to have lifetime licenses ?

I really don't like recurrent costs.


Also, I just had a feature idea for the instalatron : wouldn't it be possible to ad an admin installation script feature like auto set up of tools such as :
-mrtg
-awstats
-mail virus/spam check
(actually something that would do most of the how to from the forum itself.. for lazy admin's like me ;-) )
 
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We will almost certainly be adding lifetime licenses at some point . And existing licenses will be upgradable with no ill effect.

We're still not all that sure on the pricing structure though. We've priced Installatron a lot lower than the cPanel equivalents (which are three times our price), but at the current rate of licensing it'll take something in the order of a hundred years to pay for itself. Give or take.

I think once iTron is feature complete we will probably bump the price up.

But yeah, lifetime licenses are on the cards, and there won't be any drawbacks to anyone who has already purchased a year-license if they want to upgrade at some point. As for pricing, I don't know, it might be something like 2.5x or 3x the single year price.

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As to your other idea, yes it probably would be possible to add some admin-specific scripts. Hmm, hard to know if it would be worth it. Those scripts could only be installed once, by the admin, who would perhaps prefer a more hands-on approach to system installations. We'll think about it. :)

Rowan
 
Sumaleth said:
I think once iTron is feature complete we will probably bump the price up.

Rowan
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Will existing licenses have to pay a higher price on the renew, when the price is bumped?
 
Also, I just had a feature idea for the instalatron : wouldn't it be possible to ad an admin installation script feature like auto set up of tools such as :
-mrtg
-awstats
-mail virus/spam check
(actually something that would do most of the how to from the forum itself.. for lazy admin's like me ;-) )
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Those exact things will be in a system my company is currently working on. (No releasedate is set yet, as we are now barely entering the stage where the real coding takes place :D)

We're still not all that sure on the pricing structure though. We've priced Installatron a lot lower than the cPanel equivalents (which are three times our price), but at the current rate of licensing it'll take something in the order of a hundred years to pay for itself. Give or take.
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Just curious, isn't it going very well or something ?
I still am thinking about buying a license on it soon. But some other things will need to be figured out here. (Not related to installatron...)
 
AtomicRax said:
Will existing licenses have to pay a higher price on the renew, when the price is bumped?
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We'll probably let people renew at the renewal price that was quoted when the purchased the license. So if you already have a license, renewal costs won't go up for you when/if the software prices go up.
 
Icheb said:
Just curious, isn't it going very well or something ?
I still am thinking about buying a license on it soon. But some other things will need to be figured out here. (Not related to installatron...)
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When we set the prices we were expecting more interest, to be honest, but we're pushing ahead with long term plans regardless. Perhaps in the long term things will pick up. If not, then there will be a small handful of DA servers with an advantage over their competition. :)
 
Sumaleth said:
When we set the prices we were expecting more interest, to be honest, but we're pushing ahead with long term plans regardless. Perhaps in the long term things will pick up. If not, then there will be a small handful of DA servers with an advantage over their competition. :)
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I think most hosters don't look at the DA forums, or just want to see what happens to the product. (Dutch saying: De kat uit de boom kijken, don't really know how to translate that :D)
I wanted to wait until a better (perhaps modulair) method of plugin's in DA and the Itron version was > 1.5. But something has come in between at the moment, which i need to work out before i know how many licenses i need. :D
 
Well it doesn't work anymore...hehe. Last version (unpaid) was working but now it doesn't. I only get a blank page with "Installing: XXX" and nothing else.

:(
 
Your pricing is already a bit of a stumbling-block. You should price it so EVERYBODY would want it NOW. Why would I pay $30 now and $20 a year from now - that's $50US = $70 CDN in one year for each (small) vps server I own. With all due respect, my billing system has WAY more development effort than your product ever will and I paid approx. $200 lifetime, and it covers all my servers. Even DA itself only costs me $10/mo which puts your pricing in the same order of magnitude. Fantastico internal licences I can get $15 lifetime or FREE from some sources (but we all prefer DA don't we).
So my suggestion is to either go for broke and make it so every DA owner would be crazy not to own/lease iTron (say $12/yr - a buck a month per server ad infinitum), or get cracking and make it real easy for providers to provide us with internal license deals like Fantastico does.
Remember what Borland did many years with their $99 Pascal when everything else was going for 100s. They quickly OWNED that market (which was huge then). There's a lesson there.
-Dave
 
I'm going to 'almost' agree with you, but for a different reason.

I'm not willing to buy licenses that must be renewed from small companies that I have no idea if they'll be around in a year or not.

My clients get used to it; I get used to it, and then we have to discontinue it because the developers have disappeared and it stops working after a year.

Nope; that's what's keeping me from installing it.

Jeff
 
Actually, Fantastico is yearly. Read the fine print: "All prices are one-time fee and include 1 year of updates and support."

We operate on the exact same principle as above. None of our clients will be billed the $20 renewal fee when their year is out. Our clients simply will not be able to update iTron until their license is renewed.

Being so, Installatron is actually much, much cheaper than the standard pricing for Fantastico and similar alternatives (and currently iTron only works with DA). However, if anyone is truly interested in purchasing a huge number of licenses, contact us for pricing. I'm sure we can work something out.

And as for other payment plans, we are formulating a lifetime license and that should premier in the coming future.
 
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